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The state of external retina displays

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Re: The state of external retina displays

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If you are considering the purchase of an old Apple Cinema Display, make sure it includes the "power brick" or "power supply".

It's a proprietary bit that combines the DVI and power onto a single cable that plugs into the back of the display.

Many resellers process used Apple displays just like every other brand. You don't sell a DVI or VGA cable with a monitor. It's no big deal.

But without the required Apple brick, your very nicely calibrated large LCD monitor is... just a brick.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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LG 27GN950 seems like it hits a a lot of the criteria others are discussing. It is not 220 PPI though. 4K IPS at 144Hz (or 120Hz depending on video card) HDR 400 nits It also rotates to portrait mode, has a built in backlight for eyestrain, is essentially borderless- and it's $800-900. Have had it over a year with no issues.

The 27GN950-b variant have up to 160hz(overclocked) and 600 nits. Probably it is the successor or something of your one? I don't even know there is a one whithout `-b` exists. And it's around $1000 when not on sell. Even lower when it is on sell.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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8 years ago you had to pay $1k for a 1440p 27" sRGB IPS panel. 2 years ago I spent $800 on a 4k 27" 144 Hz monitor with >95% P3 coverage. Or another example: 8 years ago I spent $320 on a 1080p 27" (massive pixels) monitor with horrible color reproduction and contrast. 4 years ago I upgraded to a new monitor and for $300 I was able to get 4k 27" with >100% sRGB. And when you consider inflation, progress is even great…

Five years ago, I got a 40-inch 4k@60Hz for under $400. I recently got a 43-inch 4k@60Hz for $450. The new one is lighter and somewhat more color accurate. I don't get the obsession with small pixels; my eyes prefer if I stand/sit a bit further from a bigger monitor, and it's great for pairing/teaching.

I spent a while with a 27" 4K monitor. It looked nice in HiDPI modes on my Mac, but I didn't get that much usable screen real estate (I was running it about 1440p). When the pandemic hit and I started working from home every day, I upgraded to a 43" 4k display. I now have the equivalent of 4x 21.5" 1080p displays, which is far more usable than 1x 1440p, even if it doesn't look quite as nice.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Very basic geometry problem, in which I discover that a 32-inch display with a pixel density of 218 pixels/inch (to match Apple displays) requires 6108 x 3436 pixels. An 8k display would be 40 inches. h = 32, 218 = p / x, c = 16/9 y, x = h cos(t), y = h sin(t), h^2 = x^2 + y^2, 90 = t + s, x > 0, y > 0, h > 0

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Re: The state of external retina displays

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Is it actually HDR, or is it 'HDR'? I have another LG monitor that claims HDR support but really it just squishes the SDR content to make space for HDR - so it makes everything look awful .

I've heard others say that unless it has FALD, anything claiming HDR is basically lying. And I can't speak to how accurate that is, but this monitor has HDR600 which requires 10bit color depth and local dimming. I think it looks better with it enabled than without, seems like darker darks / richer color, but I'm not an HDR or monitor enthusiast, so check better sources before making a purchase.

There are so few thing on windows actually utilize HDR properly. The few I come up with are some games from UBI (Tom Clancy's series) and forza horizon 5. You get far better experience when play them with HDR. The others are either nonadjustable too dim, too bright or have a totally incorrect light curve.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Some work tools get treated like capital or heirloom and some get treated like consumables . Scissors or a hand plane are decent "heirloom" items. Potentially you can retire with the same one you started with, or pass them down. Electric drills start to lean toward consumable. Battery tech changes over the years and they do wear out in non-fixable ways. Screen and computer tech advances so fast that 5 years is a "goo…

8 years ago you had to pay $1k for a 1440p 27" sRGB IPS panel. 2 years ago I spent $800 on a 4k 27" 144 Hz monitor with >95% P3 coverage. Or another example: 8 years ago I spent $320 on a 1080p 27" (massive pixels) monitor with horrible color reproduction and contrast. 4 years ago I upgraded to a new monitor and for $300 I was able to get 4k 27" with >100% sRGB. And when you consider inflation, progress is even great…

Progess is being made specially in lower and medium range of monitors.

Apple took a large leap into giant monitors with high DPI. Most people don't care a lot about it, when you are not that close to the monitor, the retina effect is not worth, for mass market, the cost difference.

In the end, you are both correct. It is slow for the top of the line but super fast for everyone else upgranding mid-range monitors.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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> Fractional scaling is a mixed bag and a lot of apps have broken or compromised UI when it's in use. I use 1.5× scaling in Sway, and haven’t observed even the slightest problem in any Wayland app. (I also use the high-DPI patches for XWayland, and run it at 3×, so that it’s an integer multiple of my scaling factor, a minor visual improvement on the very few X11 things I use that is probably not worth it.) I will not…

The one that sticks in my memory the most was a bunch of issues with Qt-based apps in particular where UI would scale in 1x, 2x, 3x steps, but font size would scale with the fractional size specified. Led to some pretty broken looking UI.

I have a few Qt apps and haven’t observed anything like this; most likely that’s been fixed. I’ve been using Wayland since April.

(One thing that is comically broken about Sway and I think Wayland in general is cursor sizes. Specifying `seat seat0 xcursor_theme Adwaita 96` nets me at least four or I think five different cursor sizes, varying by app, and at least one of the dodgy sizes is actually a fractional scaling bug, scaling by ceil(1.5) rather than 1.5.)

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Curious as to what people think of https://consumer.huawei.com/en/monitors/mateview/specs/ - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09C6JZPZG It's 28.2" and 3840x2560 - it's a 3:2 aspect ratio. I think it's a very tempting option.

Looks interesting.

Includes audio - stereo speakers and microphone array.

Not sure the display can be used on a VESA mount; there are ports on the stand, but a detail illustration shows feed-through to ports on the hinge.

The Amazon UK site seems to be willing to ship it to my US address.

About $780, with that shipping cost.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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What's the smallest 4K (external, I don't want your meme laptops with 4k displays in the recommendation pool) monitor currently on the market?

There's a variety of 15.6" portable monitors, most seeming to have the same specs and obviously based on some laptop panel.
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