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NFT Replicas: An app to mint a replica of virtually any NFT

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Re: NFT Replicas: An app to mint a replica of virtually any NFT

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So I looked up FXhash and from what I gathered, people write a function to generate an image, and then it gets run with some random inputs so you get a bunch of similar but slightly different images out. To call this an “absolutely groundbreaking achievement in digital art that just wasn’t possible before.” is comically absurd.

Sure, then show me an open market where this was being done before at scale ?

Why does it have to be a market. Why does everything have to be about turning a profit. If you want computer generated art, I could show a billion examples. I could write my own function to generate a picture with no crypto technology.

If your argument boils down to “show me how people made lots of money on it”, then that is just confirming what I already believe. No substance, just profiting on hype.

Re: NFT Replicas: An app to mint a replica of virtually any NFT

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> The price for a replica starts at 0.001 ETH. Each time a particular NFT piece is replicated, its next replication cost will double. So be sure to replicate popular pieces early! So who gets the replication fees? Is this just a cash grab by the authors of the site?

I'm the creator of the app. I just wanted to create something that was fun/useful with some very mild sense of urgency and scarcity to it. With a starting price of 0.001 ETH per replica, I highly doubt I'll even recoup the >$400 in gas fees I paid to deploy the contract.

Re: NFT Replicas: An app to mint a replica of virtually any NFT

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You assume that these ticket companies are providing no value for the fees they charge. Which I think isn’t a safe thing to assume. Everything you have listed here would be much much easier in a database. Any kind of argument here would have to start with an explanation of why it wouldn’t be possible or practical to just start a new ticket company that does this all for free/very cheap.

> Everything you have listed here would be much much easier in a database. No, it isn't. How would you buy a ticket from me online when you don't know me? The only real option is to use stubhub which requires us to both create accounts, put our credit cards in, verify ourselves, you put the ticket up, me to buy it, and for me to not know the ticket is A. not been purchased by someone else B. authentic. A decentralise…

Band sells tickets via platform A. I buy ticket, I no longer want ticket, I sell it back to platform A which makes it available to you to purchase. They can also have a feature which allows specific person to person transfers if I want to give it to a friend.

This is all technologically possible. The reason platforms usually do not let you do this is due to business requirements. Why would the business switch to a platform that strips their ability to control resale if it isn't something they want to begin with? If they do want resale, its trivially possible with existing boring tech.

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> I don't really consider it solved, has Ticketmaster solved festival passes in a way everyone likes? I hate Ticketmaster as much as the next guy, but had a fine experience with the resellers (e.g. StubHub) which offer many things NFTs do not - like customer service (with an actual phone number), a centralized record if I lose my ticket, refunds if the seller mis-represents, no requirement to buy an asset that will l…

Perfect, now we've moved to pragmatic criticism of the current state of NFTs that have nothing to do with the concept of NFTs. (Non NFT tickets fluctuate wildly in price. Transaction fees on almost all chains are extremely low as gas is negligible in cost, with Ethereum mainnet being an exception.) So we have less revocable or irrevocable digital goods that are tradable, scarce per collection that provably predates a…

> pragmatic criticism of the current state of NFTs that have nothing to do with the concept of NFTs.

Which NFTs include a central authority able to re-issue my ticket if I lose it, address mis-representation by sellers, give refunds if the performance doesn't happen, etc? Isn't that lack of a central authority - and its attendant downsides - core to the medium?

> Non NFT tickets fluctuate wildly in price.

Which non NFT tickets have fluctuated like Bored Ape NFTs this year, and which are highly susceptible to market sentiment for the entire ticketing medium?

> What are you still having trouble with at this point:

Trying to understand how many people I respect have such enthusiasm for a medium which appears to have many downsides vs the status quo - and not yet a killer app like e.g. Gmail, Maps, Facebook to justify the Web2->Web3 transition. No doubt I'm missing something, just trying to understand what.

There's been enthusiasm for smart contracts for 5+ years, but which mainstream consumer or B2B apps have yet implemented them for non-speculation use cases?

How would it be progress for the New York Times to restrict access to quality journalism - or for Soho House to expose its future cash flows to extreme market volatility?

Re: NFT Replicas: An app to mint a replica of virtually any NFT

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> Everything you have listed here would be much much easier in a database. No, it isn't. How would you buy a ticket from me online when you don't know me? The only real option is to use stubhub which requires us to both create accounts, put our credit cards in, verify ourselves, you put the ticket up, me to buy it, and for me to not know the ticket is A. not been purchased by someone else B. authentic. A decentralise…

Band sells tickets via platform A. I buy ticket, I no longer want ticket, I sell it back to platform A which makes it available to you to purchase. They can also have a feature which allows specific person to person transfers if I want to give it to a friend. This is all technologically possible. The reason platforms usually do not let you do this is due to business requirements. Why would the business switch to a pl…

Woah, who mentioned I wanted businesses to introduce these features? Of course it makes no sense to them. I’m saying we can get rid of them altogether as the majority of their work can be replicated.

Up until now it’s been difficult to do this because the prohibitive cost of centralized services - with Web3 you have all these building blocks available without a high cost central party managing databases, cloud costs, staffing, etc…

Edit: To clarify I’ve seen end users and bands want resale, it’s just not very profitable and hard to control fraud.

To summarize I’m saying that I think and hope that Web3 will have these businesses purpose as features of the infrastructure :)

Re: NFT Replicas: An app to mint a replica of virtually any NFT

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It’s not that difficult. Artists, original creators will write down their .eth or wallet address on their profile. Or just compare the timestamps of the creation of the smart contracts and the tokens.

That doesn't solve the issue. You have no way of knowing if the art I'm selling as NFT was made by me or if I copied it from the webpage/DeviantArt of an other artist. Being the first to create an NFT of an image doesn't mean you created the image. And if the images are slightly edited to prevent google image searches (or similar technique), people might never know that 3 people are selling the same stolen image.

That’s why I’ll rely on the .eth or wallet address listed by the artist on deviantart. NFT buyers buying from scammers aren’t doing their due diligence to check if it’s legit or not; they could simply contact the artists directly to confirm if the listing is real.. I’ve done just that, contacting the artist directly to make sure.

If you ask “well, how do you know that’s their real deviant profile?”, at that point, it’s not a crypto/NFT problem, but an identity problem. My understanding is that keybase.io was one way to do that, but I never used it so I can’t say much. What if a scammer registered the keybase first before the real artist? Not sure what happens in that case.

Re: NFT Replicas: An app to mint a replica of virtually any NFT

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Perfect, now we've moved to pragmatic criticism of the current state of NFTs that have nothing to do with the concept of NFTs. (Non NFT tickets fluctuate wildly in price. Transaction fees on almost all chains are extremely low as gas is negligible in cost, with Ethereum mainnet being an exception.) So we have less revocable or irrevocable digital goods that are tradable, scarce per collection that provably predates a…

> pragmatic criticism of the current state of NFTs that have nothing to do with the concept of NFTs. Which NFTs include a central authority able to re-issue my ticket if I lose it, address mis-representation by sellers, give refunds if the performance doesn't happen, etc? Isn't that lack of a central authority - and its attendant downsides - core to the medium? > Non NFT tickets fluctuate wildly in price. Which non N…

Plenty of NFT projects have issued refunds directly to current holders. It's just a management decision and wouldn't really make the news.

Many festivals have direct sales for a few hundred dollars, resold for a few thousand before the festival occurs and the ticket is redeemed. Similar price moves are much more common in the NFT space than a move to a Bored Ape amount ($200,000 at time of writing). If several hundred percent isn't considered volatile enough for comparison, that really discredits the good faith efforts of this conversation.

> but which mainstream consumer or B2B apps have yet implemented them for non-speculation use cases?

Its crypto and everything else. At this point you can stop looking. If you are doing a crypto app and trying to make a sales process and funnel for people not in the crypto space, then you're wasting your time. There are already 2-3 trillion dollars of value in the space and high volume onchain and offchain. Many people are providing financial services to speculators, just like people that provide ... financial services to speculators in the rest of the economy. People extract value by making some other aspect of the ecosystem easier for other people.

> How would it be progress for the New York Times to restrict access to quality journalism - or for Soho House to expose its future cash flows to extreme market volatility?

The question is how much would the owners pay for that access. Not whether it is a viable business model the issuer gambled on. There are plenty of NFT projects that didn't get enough resales for that half-year-old model to be seen as viable for royalties or the community. Some are actively traded enough that it doesn't turn out to be a rip off. Guess who still earned all the money from the original sale but only talked about what they might do with royalties from after market sales, so the question is always "whose problem is it".

People are enthused because they get to experiment. Just move a function around, alter one variable in a class and viola' the hit of the week and $24,000,000[1] that people are very appreciative of. Maybe they've done something sustainable maybe not. People want to participate for whats possible. The prices from the original issuer are moderate/predictable or even free, the stuff that makes the headlines is just all enthused people that need to make their own objective decisions.

[1] https://www.adidas.com/into_the_metaverse/mint here Adidas is embracing that people like to buy and resell their merchandise, frequently at massive premiums, so they are only letting NFT holders authenticate to purchase for a specific future drop instead. They were about $800 each and they sold 30,000 of them. A merch flipper can price their own potential future revenues accordingly, or just be an actual collector first in line to collect the merchandise. Each experiment is different, available to be debated in isolation, it is impossible to use a broad brush because the word NFT is involved. Obviously someone is free to put one of these on their twitter avatar, it should be obvious that this won't help them with access to the Adidas drops. "Oh my god speculation I knewwww it, bot infested free for alls were so adequate", just a strawman for some fun (or is it), we can laugh

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