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PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Firefox is absolutely fantastic nowadays, and I strongly encourage everyone to start using it as their primary browser. It's hard to overstate how important it is to have at least two independent browser implementations around. If Firefox dies then Chromium would become the de facto rendering engine, and we'll no longer have any meaningful specification for web standards. The web will simply be whatever Chromium does…

I'm afraid Mozilla can't promise anything at this point:

>After discussing this with several content blocking extension developers, we have decided to implement DNR and continue maintaining support for blocking webRequest

Then they say blockingWebRequest will be eventually deprecated:

>We’d like to note that it’s still very early to be talking about migrating extensions to Manifest v3. We have not yet set a deprecation date for Manifest v2 but expect it to be supported for at least one year after Manifest v3 becomes stable in the release channel.

https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2021/05/27/manifest-v3-updat...

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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*Off-topic:* I've experimented with a new layout in Firefox, and now I can't think of going back. I first installed Tree Style Tab. I then removed the tabs at the top of the window and added a permanent status bar to the bottom of the window using userChrome.css: https://i.imgur.com/PIONywj.png (edited to add, my userChrome.css: https://gist.github.com/anthonyclarka2/155c038de96e91894cbd4... ) (EDIT: I added some ext…

Weird to see an off topic post being number one in the thread. Good for you and your layout but the on topic comment is as cookie cutter as can be. No shit that tech minded folk like to block ads! I view this post as an attempt to distract from the actual topic.

I don’t believe any comment recommending Firefox is off topic at all for this. For anyone who is worried about losing uBlock functionality in Chrome, the correct answer to that problem is to switch to Firefox. Hence the top two comments right now pertain to Firefox.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

#264

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And Chrome won't allow the extension block lists to include regexps/wildcards, they all have to be FQDNs? It seems reasonable to require a static list for privacy reasons. But not supporting pattern matching rules would seem to be an explicit attempt to stop ad blockers.

> It seems reasonable to require a static list for privacy reasons. It's rich to cite privacy reasons for not allowing the blocking of ad sites whose goal is to spy on you.

The privacy advantage is not giving extensions access to what domains you are browsing. The extension declares a static list but doesn't know what did/did not match.

Because if the extension knows what URLs you're accessing, and can send that data somewhere, that's a major privacy concern.

So this makes sense and seems good for privacy. But if it breaks uBlock Origin significantly, that seems like a very bad thing.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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post #261

Firefox is absolutely fantastic nowadays, and I strongly encourage everyone to start using it as their primary browser. It's hard to overstate how important it is to have at least two independent browser implementations around. If Firefox dies then Chromium would become the de facto rendering engine, and we'll no longer have any meaningful specification for web standards. The web will simply be whatever Chromium does…

I'm afraid Mozilla can't promise anything at this point: >After discussing this with several content blocking extension developers, we have decided to implement DNR and continue maintaining support for blocking webRequest Then they say blockingWebRequest will be eventually deprecated: >We’d like to note that it’s still very early to be talking about migrating extensions to Manifest v3. We have not yet set a deprecati…

From the link you posted:

> After discussing this with several content blocking extension developers, we have decided to implement DNR and continue maintaining support for blocking webRequest.

They're adopting v3 but not removing this critical use-case.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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post #261

Firefox is absolutely fantastic nowadays, and I strongly encourage everyone to start using it as their primary browser. It's hard to overstate how important it is to have at least two independent browser implementations around. If Firefox dies then Chromium would become the de facto rendering engine, and we'll no longer have any meaningful specification for web standards. The web will simply be whatever Chromium does…

I'm afraid Mozilla can't promise anything at this point: >After discussing this with several content blocking extension developers, we have decided to implement DNR and continue maintaining support for blocking webRequest Then they say blockingWebRequest will be eventually deprecated: >We’d like to note that it’s still very early to be talking about migrating extensions to Manifest v3. We have not yet set a deprecati…

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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Chrome won't allow the extension block lists to include regexps/wildcards, they all have to be FQDNs? It seems reasonable to require a static list for privacy reasons. But not supporting pattern matching rules would seem to be an explicit attempt to stop ad blockers.

The block list rules can have regexes, yes: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/reference/decla... I don't personally believe that solves anything. Domain names are cheap. If I don't want my ad to be blocked, I can just rotate through lots of them. Google has responded to some pressure by upping the max number of rules and allowing some amount of dynamically defined rules.

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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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By themselves, ads aren't the real problem --- personalized ads are the problem. The idea that they have to profile and track your every move all over the internet in order to try and sell you stuff you don't really want or need. Example: If I go to a pet supply web site, an ad for dog food is perfectly understandable --- maybe even welcomed. But just because I was profiled visiting and maybe even buying, I shouldn't…

>For the individual consumer, there is nothing good about privacy invasion and personalized ads. That's not true. If I'm forced to see ads they might as well be personalized. Hell, sometimes (rarely, I'll admit) I even find some things that interest me, like new products or services. Personalized ads work, there is no way around it. What irks me about these complaints is not complaining about ads, we all know they ar…

> I mean, it's not like you are begging to be paying a subscription to get rid of ads.

Hah, and what, have multiple walled gardens, pay monthly subscriptions for skimming 2 articles 1 a month? Have to deal with the whole payment process? The complication alone would be more that what I get out of it.

Besides, pay what? Most things on the net are crap anyways. You know those SEO cancer, content devoid, webpages? I would hate hate hate for them to get even 1 cent off of me. Most _good_ pages, ones I am truly interested are not ad powered anyway. HN is _almost_ add free. Reddit is pretty annoying with ads, but the content is community generated anyway. Most forums I visit are not ad powered.

I swear, if I could, I would pay the ad revenue myself. I really really am curious how much that amounts to. Can't be too much, I remember reading _somewhere_ that FB has on average 50$/year off of each account. Sounds about right, but maybe my memory was playing tricks on me and the info might be bullshit. Would love to just send 2 cents for each page visited would that be fair? Someone should do a micropayments interface so that I can send some crypto to pages I read.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

#269

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I've combined TST with 1) "Firefox Multi-Account Containers" (to have different "profiles" within the same browser, very useful for personal/work/shopping/etc), 2) "Simple Tab Groups" to be able to switch contexts (social networks time, research, free time reading and news... these are topical groups, different functionality from containers).

i love everything about multi-account containers except when it comes managing two google accounts (for work and personal). I can never get them to work proeprly with the number of redirects and whatnot. not sure who to blame here but i hope Firefox comes up with a fix soon.

It would be better to create two profiles in firefox to separate work and personal. And both can be started at the same in two different browser instances if you like.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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post #204

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Isn't it called Brave?

Preferrably one that is not involved in some kind of cryptocurrency scammery scheme.

You can disable their ad stuff and then it’s not (for you).
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