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Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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Post by tinus_hn »

Osiris wrote: post #111
pantaloons wrote: post #58

I worked on Windows back in 2014, probably the most surprising thing joining there out of college was looking through the bug database. Every issue that gets complained about online -- and many more -- are in there, and have been for a long time, marked WONTFIX due to a potential compatibility break, lack of priority, or some other policy reason. I don't know if anyone even owned Notepad or any other older inbox apps…

I have an app that has run on every version of Windows from 2000 through Windows 10. It now doesn't work in Windows 11 because they didn't reimplement the IDeskBand interface for the taskbar that my app uses to show remaining battery time. My app is even part of their compatibility test suite (they asked me for permission and a license). I understand the need to move forward and that BW compatibility can be hinder th…

So how does the little turd that shows news and weather work?

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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Post by hulitu »

seritools wrote: post #118

10 minute QA because they don't seem to have done it: - It consistently starts slower than Notepad3 while having substantially fewer features to load (and also slower than the old Notepad of course) - THEY ANIMATED THE SCROLLING OMG PLEASE DONT DO THIS (especially when grabbing the scroll bar handle). Any amount of delay is too much in notepad - the animation runs at 60Hz even on a high refresh rate screen, so it loo…

But they forgot to include "Clippy". Looks like you are writting a letter...

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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Post by hulitu »

chungy wrote: post #162
seritools wrote: post #118

10 minute QA because they don't seem to have done it: - It consistently starts slower than Notepad3 while having substantially fewer features to load (and also slower than the old Notepad of course) - THEY ANIMATED THE SCROLLING OMG PLEASE DONT DO THIS (especially when grabbing the scroll bar handle). Any amount of delay is too much in notepad - the animation runs at 60Hz even on a high refresh rate screen, so it loo…

> HEY ANIMATED THE SCROLLING OMG PLEASE DONT DO THIS That's always the first feature I turn off if I start a clean web browser profile. I'm not even sure why "smooth" scrolling is a thing...

I had to turn it on because Edge cannot render a normal HTML file without it (Slackware linux changelog). Is is just sad.

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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Post by ifdefdebug »

okareaman wrote: post #45

The greatest thing about Notepad is that it runs and displays a blinking cursor ready for typing in much less than a second for a new document. On my Windows 11 machine it appears to be around 200 msec. I've tried setting my text file handler to other text editors but nothing else comes close to this speed of utility. I'm very glad they are not messing with that. Overall, I'm very pleased with my Windows 11. Everythi…

Can I still configure the Taskbar to show small icons, ungrouped, with title (win95/2k look and feel)? That would be decisive for me...

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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Post by tasogare »

jeffmill wrote: post #256
pantaloons wrote: post #58

I worked on Windows back in 2014, probably the most surprising thing joining there out of college was looking through the bug database. Every issue that gets complained about online -- and many more -- are in there, and have been for a long time, marked WONTFIX due to a potential compatibility break, lack of priority, or some other policy reason. I don't know if anyone even owned Notepad or any other older inbox apps…

> For Notepad a frustrated engineer had produced a change-set to fix all of them Hey, that was me (JeffMill). I was a dev lead for the Windows shell team at the time, and I got frustrated with notepad not getting any attention, so I spent a weekend and made the changes you describe and more, and had one of my reports code review it. I checked the changes in, and that week, some of the members of test team (remember t…

Why not releasing it as NewNotepad or something? This way it keeps the old one working but provides a newer alternative. Like Paint and 3DPaint or whatever it is called.

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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Post by karpovv-boris »

Mk2000 wrote: post #264

It still doesn't have half of Kate's (Plasma's default editor) functionalities. The only addition seems to be the dark mode, which is very opinionated and unchangeable

It's controversial, for quick/temp notes Notepad works perfectly. In my opinion it does not need to have a lot of features.

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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Post by tinus_hn »

garbagecoder wrote: post #222
ripdog wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows is stuffed full of anti-patterns. You can't avoid them just by using notepad.

Windows is garbage. I’m not disagreeing with that part, butdesktop Linux is hot garbage too. The audio stack is garbage. X is decades old and Wyland is a meme.

Interesting how X being decades old is a con, while the glorious Notepad hasn’t really changed since the Windows 1.0 days.

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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Post by coldtea »

Osiris wrote: post #111
pantaloons wrote: post #58

I worked on Windows back in 2014, probably the most surprising thing joining there out of college was looking through the bug database. Every issue that gets complained about online -- and many more -- are in there, and have been for a long time, marked WONTFIX due to a potential compatibility break, lack of priority, or some other policy reason. I don't know if anyone even owned Notepad or any other older inbox apps…

I have an app that has run on every version of Windows from 2000 through Windows 10. It now doesn't work in Windows 11 because they didn't reimplement the IDeskBand interface for the taskbar that my app uses to show remaining battery time. My app is even part of their compatibility test suite (they asked me for permission and a license). I understand the need to move forward and that BW compatibility can be hinder th…

>I have an app that has run on every version of Windows from 2000 through Windows 10

Well, it had a good run. Should such compatibility forever hold Windows back from making breaking changes to those APIs though? 20 years is an eternity in computing...

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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Post by pjc50 »

jordache wrote: post #174

windows 10 + 11 is such a mess. It's just a pretty skin on top of the same Windows NT Window chrome. The modern UI skin is baked in with a bunch of none-sensical UX decisions. I also hate how Windows' happy-path setup, does not encourage use to create and operate with a low privileged local account. Instead, if you click through the setup process, you end up running the OS w/ an admin level account.

There isn't any point in having a low-privilege account; all the important data is owned by the user, and system-level protection is gated behind UAC.

Instead they're trying to point people to sandboxed Windows Store apps, which is .. not going well.

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