The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

Post by dragonwriter » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 5:34 AM UTC

jimmySixDOF wrote: post #255

sushsjsuauahab wrote: post #28

There will never be a metaverse! The amount of electricity and device manufacturing required for it to exist at scale will likely exhaust our capabilities as a planet and lead to yet more conflict and strife.

My take is almost the complete opposite. In the Metaverse, you can spin up a office building for an unlimited number of users who can access from across the globe. Please compaire that use case, and so many more like it, to the real world alternatives in terms of resource consumption. It's an economy of infinite bits, not limited atoms.

Post by mohanmcgeek » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 5:40 AM UTC

randomsearch wrote: post #200

“What is so hard for people to understand” says HN commenter: “the metaverse clearly means [my definition of the metaverse] why can’t people see this?!!” Well, Zuckerberg didn’t give a clear definition, the term itself is made up, and it doesn’t currently exist (otherwise, what would we be building?). So no you don’t know what it means or how it will turn out, and neither does Zuckerberg. He might have a vision of wh…

Post by nightowl_games » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 5:52 AM UTC

mohanmcgeek wrote: post #263

randomsearch wrote: post #200

“What is so hard for people to understand” says HN commenter: “the metaverse clearly means [my definition of the metaverse] why can’t people see this?!!” Well, Zuckerberg didn’t give a clear definition, the term itself is made up, and it doesn’t currently exist (otherwise, what would we be building?). So no you don’t know what it means or how it will turn out, and neither does Zuckerberg. He might have a vision of wh…

Facebook over the years had several opportunities to buy game studios and become a gaming company themselves. This metaverse is a VR video game and Facebook has demonstrated zero abilities to make a video game. I would bet on Minecraft and Fortnite creators to be a better position to create this "metaverse" because they've done this before.

Post by nightowl_games » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 5:54 AM UTC

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #162

astlouis44 wrote: post #87

No, it is not. Neither is Roblox or Fortnite, or VRchat. A single game or world is NOT the metaverse, what is so hard to understand about that for journalists and companies? The metaverse is the immersive internet, as a successor to our current one that is more 2D oriented around photos/videos/text today. It's a paradigm shift in how we interact, but most importantly there will be many of these virtual worlds/spaces…

That's the metaverse we wish for, yet it's not the metaverse FB wants to build. It is the metaverse only in name, but it's just another proprietary sillowed plateform built to milk users. A metaverse should have an HTTP-like protocol, with the goal to interconnect, to give power to the client, while allowing an ecosystem to build, because it would be defined as an open standard. We need a 2021 Tim Berners Lee, not a…

Post by test6554 » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 6:04 AM UTC

yazaddaruvala wrote: post #258

Retric wrote: post #237

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The issue is VR is in practice a really terrible interface for widespread shared user experiences. MMO’s are almost exclusively played in 3rd person perspective in part because looking at eye level prevents you from seeing behind the person in front of you, and removing collision detection doesn’t help. Think of walking around a crowded convention and you really can’t see many people at the same time. You can of cour…

> MMO’s are almost exclusively played in 3rd person perspective in part because looking at eye level prevents you from seeing behind the person in front of you I mean, yes I agree. There are some workarounds, i.e. you could jump, in VR it’s very fast to swivel your head, look around the people in front of you or look behind you. That said, I very much agree, I wouldn’t want to play WOW in VR. The DBM style warning zo…