Apple Captures 75% of Global Handset Market Operating Profit in Q2 2021 • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Captures 75% of Global Handset Market Operating Profit in Q2 2021

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Post by musicale » Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 10:05 AM UTC

dannyw wrote: post #220

musicale wrote: post #193

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I guess I'm a techie, because I don't want vendor crapware and I do want more than 2 years of software updates and security patches (though it has gotten better over the past few years - probably partially due to Android One, which is closer to stock Android!) And last I checked, Google's Pixel (5/6/etc.) phones seemed pretty decent.

pixel is not stock android

I was responding primarily to the "only techies care" part.

Although Pixel phones are at the top of "best stock Android phone" lists, they're not technically stock Android.

"Granted, Pixel UI is very, very close to stock. However, it is not technically stock as Google adds in tons of Pixel-exclusive features and pre-installs apps here and there."

https://www.androidauthority.com/what-is-stock-android-84562...

iPhones also (mostly) meet my criteria and are pretty good smartphones, and they don't run Android at all. ;-)

Re: Apple Captures 75% of Global Handset Market Operating Profit in Q2 2021

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Post by skinnymuch » Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 10:40 AM UTC

fomine3 wrote: post #258

skinnymuch wrote: post #255

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You’re saying a foldable tablet fitting in your pocket would be good for you? Then why call folding a gimmick at the beginning? The iPhone was called a gimmick when it was new. Same with the iPad, less so but still with the Apple Watch.

I'm not a native so maybe used wrong word. Flexible OLED was also used for smartphone like LG G Flex, Galaxy Note Edge/S6 edge and its successor, but those aren't welcomed well. Samsung widely used the edge "gimmick" but it's not welcomed by majority from what I see because it shows curved content, makes accidental touch, and makes (a bit) hard to put screen protector. Finally they advanced to foldable OLED and devel…

Ah yes. That is actually what I was thinking — Edge. When it comes to Samsung and gimmicks the Edge was definitely one of them. Though on the other hand. It was a cool thing to try. It just didn’t end up working so well. I’m not sure how long they kept the Edge series up for.

Good point. Maybe if they didn’t try different things like the Edge, the Fold wouldn’t happen.

> Fold3 is really good but I think final product is important than the tech itself

You said you’re not a native speaker. I’m looking for clarification here, respectfully. Your writing is really good.

Do you think the Fold3 specifically is important or folding in general/overall?

Re: Apple Captures 75% of Global Handset Market Operating Profit in Q2 2021

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Post by fomine3 » Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 11:41 AM UTC

skinnymuch wrote: post #262

fomine3 wrote: post #258

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I'm not a native so maybe used wrong word. Flexible OLED was also used for smartphone like LG G Flex, Galaxy Note Edge/S6 edge and its successor, but those aren't welcomed well. Samsung widely used the edge "gimmick" but it's not welcomed by majority from what I see because it shows curved content, makes accidental touch, and makes (a bit) hard to put screen protector. Finally they advanced to foldable OLED and devel…

Ah yes. That is actually what I was thinking — Edge. When it comes to Samsung and gimmicks the Edge was definitely one of them. Though on the other hand. It was a cool thing to try. It just didn’t end up working so well. I’m not sure how long they kept the Edge series up for. Good point. Maybe if they didn’t try different things like the Edge, the Fold wouldn’t happen. > Fold3 is really good but I think final product…

I like the idea of foldable tablets because currently it's the only way to bring and use bigger screen everywhere. In my experience, reading text on small screen is significantly bad to understand things. Fold3 looks really well made for both software (but we miss tablet support by some 3rd party apps) and hardware, but maybe other manufacturers catch up before long.

I love my Fold3 but I don't know much the point of Flip/Razr foldable series. It looks cool, a bit compact, and maybe great for selfies because it don't need any stands to use outer cameras but seems to not good tradeoff to weak points. Still, it's good thing that Samsung can sell such products other than just boring smartphones.

Re: Apple Captures 75% of Global Handset Market Operating Profit in Q2 2021

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Post by Winsaucerer » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 5:49 AM UTC

kleiba wrote: post #26

intrasight wrote: post #21

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The good news for Apple is that the next phase is AR, and I expect that Apple will captures the lion's share of the profits there too.

My bet is that AR is going to go the way of 3D TVs.

I am absolutely sure that AR will one day be everywhere used by everyone. There's going to be so many useful applications opened up by people being able to have a wearable always available AR view.

How soon, I don't know -- probably not before the technology isn't an inconvenience to wear.

Re: Apple Captures 75% of Global Handset Market Operating Profit in Q2 2021

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Post by burnte » Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 2:57 PM UTC

dev_tty01 wrote: post #221

burnte wrote: post #169

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Apple absolutely doesn't HAVE to make money on the hardware, they could sell them at a loss and still rake in billions thanks to the AppStore.

Services (App store, Music, TV, ...) accounted for 21% of revenue last quarter. The rest is hardware. App store is some fraction of that 17 billion services revenue. Hardware was 64 billion. So yes they could make billions in services, but it pales in comparison to their hardware revenue. Also, services revenue doesn't happen without selling a huge amount of hardware first, and building the ecosystem, ... All of that…

Revenue, but a much larger part of the profit.