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Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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Why do the scalpers get first dibs on the supply?

That's the right question. As Huang said a few years ago: the more you buy, the more you save

> As Huang said a few years ago: the more you buy, the more you save

This is what wholesalers do: they buy large quantities at low prices and then sell small quantities at high prices.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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Indeed - not many manufacturers could get away with Tesla's strategy of charging money for features that are in Alpha state, to put it charitably (e.g. Autopilot).

Many manufacturers had no shame to charge for shitty features in alpha state like the "ping pong" line assist.

Well they aren't going to "ping pong" themselves into a parked emergency vehicle.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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First of all this "simple" car may end up being more expensive. Doing a lot of the things the old mechanical way requires a lot of labor and labor is expensive nowadays. Having to use turning wires and vacuum tubes for instrument clusters, and a bunch of pull wires for controls... Not only would that be expensive it would require skills and equipment long lost today. Oh and the wind shield wipers -- it is possible to…

One of my motorcycles is from 1973. Nary a tube or chip on it. I think it's got a turn blinker that's kinda a flip-flop, but I think it's just charging and discharging capacitors. It's lasted way longer than most modern disposable vehicles. I don't know if most of these things actually require digital features.

But how many parts of it are original? In other words is it the ship of Theseus? Does it pass e-check or is it exempt?

Regardless I do appreciate the simplicity of long past inventions.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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Is the _market_ begging, or a few folks on the internet? The only folks I know that complain about technology in cars are a couple posters on internet forums.

Sure, lots of internet people who don't want to be tracked (license plate readers notwithstanding). But also plenty of IRL people complaining about how, for example, they miss their $10k pickup with no power anything that worked great for anytime they needed to haul material X from location M to N, but now you need to drop a minimum of $50k for a vehicle you might use once per weekend to haul gravel, insulation, ceme…

Ignoring everything else, that new truck is much larger. Compact trucks have not really existed in the US market for a decade at least.

An old Ford Ranger was 175-200 inches long depending on year and model. The new one is 200-210 inches.

Sort this list by class and you'll see a total of two compact trucks in the US market. Both are debuting either this year or the next: Ford Maverick (200") and Hyundai Santa Cruz (195").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pickup_trucks

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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Maybe we should amend/change those laws back.

Perhaps we shouldn't. The EU estimates that half the fatalities on the road will be prevented with these systems. That's 10.000 lives each year. If that's true, increasing the cost marginally is more than worth it (and it really is marginally, budget cars have not noticably increased in price).

> budget cars have not noticably increased in price

Actually, they did. The new Dacia Logan starts at 8500 euros, back in 2009 you could buy an entry-level one at about 5500-6000 euros, which would be around 6400-7000 euros in today's money. At those entry level prices those extra 1500-2000 euros do count.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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What I'll never understand is why carmakers don't take advantage of this situation and address a market that's been literally BEGGING for decades for a new product: A simple, basic car, with the ONLY electronic control being for: - Valve timing - Fuel injection - Oxygen and throttle - Emissions There's a market for budget and privacy oriented customers that all carmakers seem to have ignored for two decades now. Give…

I personally wish that the infotainment part of the vehicle was a interface cable where the customer could freely choose the platform and also have an upgrade path in the future. Making cars more like cell phones means they will assume the lifetime of a cell phone.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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What I'll never understand is why carmakers don't take advantage of this situation and address a market that's been literally BEGGING for decades for a new product: A simple, basic car, with the ONLY electronic control being for: - Valve timing - Fuel injection - Oxygen and throttle - Emissions There's a market for budget and privacy oriented customers that all carmakers seem to have ignored for two decades now. Give…

I like your idea. The only reason all those accessories are mandated, is because the car industry made it so, thus increasing the value (profit) of a standard car. We could just as easily 'mandate', a different class of vehicle. Call it a classic class, or something. For example, motorcycles don't have back up cameras, air bags, etc. Back to the consumer having a choice. Similar to right to repair.

Motorcycles don’t have a reverse gear and airbags only help if you have seatbelts. Not sure what your point is. Motorcycles are radically more dangerous for riders than passenger cars are for drivers.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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First of all this "simple" car may end up being more expensive. Doing a lot of the things the old mechanical way requires a lot of labor and labor is expensive nowadays. Having to use turning wires and vacuum tubes for instrument clusters, and a bunch of pull wires for controls... Not only would that be expensive it would require skills and equipment long lost today. Oh and the wind shield wipers -- it is possible to…

One of my motorcycles is from 1973. Nary a tube or chip on it. I think it's got a turn blinker that's kinda a flip-flop, but I think it's just charging and discharging capacitors. It's lasted way longer than most modern disposable vehicles. I don't know if most of these things actually require digital features.

You say "one of" your motorcycles, so I take it you aren't riding this bike everyday, putting 12-15,000 miles a year on it and needing it to be reliable every time you go to work or run an errand.

Apples to oranges comparison.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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One important part of the chip shortage is the massive amount of price gouging going on. Every IC is being bought up by new 3rd party distributors to scalp to desperate electronics manufacturers. Take a look at this chip we are just now crossing as an example, click on 'Non-authorized stocking distributors': https://octopart.com/tps2052bdgnr-texas+instruments-699312?r... Win Source has a bunch, but you will pay 6x th…

> Having scalpers in the mix raising the price for all components worries me that the chip shortage might not end for many years, as they can self-fund by raising their prices to stock up on new supply.

How do the scalpers get the supply before someone else gets it? What do the scalpers do when IC manufacturers increase supply and electronics manufacturers decrease demand by switching to similar components? What if one of the scalpers panics, dumps its inventory, and causes a price drop?

The whole situation could just as quickly turn into the opposite when production returns to normal.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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My understanding is that JIT, as performed by Toyota, takes into account the differences in difficulty of sourcing different inventories. If this is true, one would expect that Toyota faced shortages later than other manufacturers. Does anyone have a source proving or disproving this?

Toyota was among the last to be hit. Also, JIT is not having zero inventory. It is about having the right amount of inventory.

Pedantic comment: is that not what lean is about? Or is "lean" and jit essentially the same thing?
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