I always feel so strange when the topic of tabs comes up. There is an assumption that everyone has hundreds of tabs open all the time. Is that really true? I honestly can't imagine needing more than email, chat, github, and maybe some documentation or something while you are working. What do you people need all these open tabs for??
Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
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Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can change what happens when a user hits CMD-w. But CMD-w should still be the trigger. Everyone expects a very specific thing, make the current thing go away. Its the same reason you likely picked CMD-k as the shortcut to your pop up window. That's what Slack does along with several other applications. If you want to map this shortcut to your implementation of "going away" that's fine but it should be the same co…
This is a fair point. Right now, it shows a message on the bottom-left asking if you meant to close a page and suggesting "D" as the shortcut instead. I think adding a classic mode with those shortcuts enabled should solve the issue. What do you think?
What happens when a user thinks they are in an input field and hits 'd'?
I've experienced the likely same outcome with Vimium and 'x'
I suspect you will want to have modifier keys be the default. Something to ask users rather than forcing them to adopt to what you think is best
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#263I always feel so strange when the topic of tabs comes up. There is an assumption that everyone has hundreds of tabs open all the time. Is that really true? I honestly can't imagine needing more than email, chat, github, and maybe some documentation or something while you are working. What do you people need all these open tabs for??
I understand your sentiment, however whenever I look at colleagues' or friends' browsers, they do indeed have an endless stream of tabs. Often 30+.
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a fair point. Right now, it shows a message on the bottom-left asking if you meant to close a page and suggesting "D" as the shortcut instead. I think adding a classic mode with those shortcuts enabled should solve the issue. What do you think?
What happens when a user thinks they are in an input field and hits 'd'? I've experienced the likely same outcome with Vimium and 'x' I suspect you will want to have modifier keys be the default. Something to ask users rather than forcing them to adopt to what you think is best
Hmm, I want to look further into how often this happens.
Was this a big issue for you with Vimium?
Right now, if you accidentally close a page, you can quickly "Z" (or click the undo button that shows up) to bring the page back.
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#265I always feel so strange when the topic of tabs comes up. There is an assumption that everyone has hundreds of tabs open all the time. Is that really true? I honestly can't imagine needing more than email, chat, github, and maybe some documentation or something while you are working. What do you people need all these open tabs for??
I've had 100+ for sure. When I used Safari, I had about 15-20 windows open.
And honestly, I think SigmaOS is still great (biased ofc :p) when you have a few pages open, just from the ability to organise those pages.
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#266Honestly, this just seems like a cheap rip-off of Vivaldi. All of the features(yes, all of them) are already present in Vivaldi, including the split screen, tree style tabs, sync, global search, full keyboard support. Slapping some UI makeup on top of an already existing product does not warrant a hefty fee of $15 in my view. Also, I don't see any proof that my data is secure. For all I know, you guys will sell off m…
> Apart from the snooze and done features, tell me one thing that this browser achieves that isn't already available through free, open-source, trustworthy extensions whose code I can see and audit. Is there a Spotlight/Alfred extension for Chrome/ium/Firefox? I haven't seen that UX in a browser yet.
Firefox integrates straight into KDE's KRunner framework, for one.
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#267No Linux? No Windows? No 32-bit? No thank you.
No source code? No tech details? No reason to trust you with my browsing? For all I know, this could be MITM'ing my sessions and exfiltrating my data. Being a paid product gives me exactly one guarantee: that I will be that much poorer. It doesn't increase my trust in the product in any way, it doesn't say anything about what the product is doing for my privacy or security. This is a very poor marketing piece. > Wond…
> No source code? No tech details? No reason to trust you with my browsing? For all I know, this could be MITM'ing my sessions and exfiltrating my data.
If open-source is what instills trust, then Chromium would be the most trusted browser. Instead, in practice, we should look at actual 'phoning home' habits and browser's business model to tell us what it real agenda is.
Luckily we do need source code at all to check if any browser is sending data anywhere. A simple network proxy will do and is much easier and more accurate than supposedly going through millions(?) lines of code.
In case of SigmaOS, at least the business model is more likely to not create privacy-related friction. I haven't checked it with network proxy, but somebody pointed out that crash logs are automatically sent to Microsoft which is not a good sign. Those are the things I would focus on.
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#268Love it so far. When I think about all of the time and tasks lost because of my mountain of tabs, $15 is an infinitesimally small price to pay given my workload and schedule. If it's not for you it's not for you but at least just try it. This will actually make me money and help me clock our earlier aside from the headaches I won't have. My life feels more organized and I am happy to have a team that is dedicated to…
That’s awesome, thanks for the kind words and keep the feedback coming!
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#269The "Used by people at..." bit is curious and suspicious, especially in relation to their privacy claims.
Lets say it is true, there are a few scenario's.
One scenario is harmless: these people work there, are friends and told the makers they use the browser and are happy for them to use this info on the site.
Most other scenario's: they found this out from e-mail addresses or through some other means and are now using this tidbit on the site to sell their product. This isn't selling information, but it is pretty close to it. It shows that they mine your information and use it to their own benefit. It isn't very nefarious, but it isn't exactly super privacy conscious. "Oh… and we don’t sell your data." oh, but we do look through it and see what we can use four ourselves.
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can speculate this can actually attract even more of the target audience to you. Mac people probably feel more enthusiastic about Mac-specific software announcements and are steadier to go and take a look at something Mac-specific than at yet another generic browser. And for the conversion rate - this probably even is a serious boost.
We have been getting slightly more constructive comments since changing the title, so thanks :D
And those enthusiastic about Mac, also care about things like how 'macOS' is written. Attention to detail matters and shows your own level of dilligence.