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Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 10:03 PM UTC

cronix wrote: post #73

mrtksn wrote: post #25

I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

Another thing Tik Tok does is get rid of people who are obese, queer, or otherwise the target of harassment. Their stance is it's easier to get rid of the person being made fun of or limit who can see their videos rather than the 10k people harassing them. > According to Netzpolitik, the social media company instructed moderators to find users who are “susceptible to harassment or cyberbullying based on their physica…

I would have to disagree with you about the anti-queer slant. Maye it's what I've tuned the algorithm to, but I see far, far, far more queer and people of color on TikTok than any media form I have previously encountered.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by spullara » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 10:03 PM UTC

underwater wrote: post #184

I'm baffled by the glowing endorsements of TikTok on Hacker News of all places. TikTok content comes across as completely vapid. It's like the worst possible mashup of bad television and social media. As a company TikTok seems to have zero goals beyond increasing engagement.

You have to use it a bit and interact with it to find the content you like. My guess is that people who like it have done this and people that don't haven't yet found their niche.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by tootie » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 10:03 PM UTC

underwater wrote: post #184

I'm baffled by the glowing endorsements of TikTok on Hacker News of all places. TikTok content comes across as completely vapid. It's like the worst possible mashup of bad television and social media. As a company TikTok seems to have zero goals beyond increasing engagement.

Yeah, it isn't really comparable to Facebook or Reddit or Youtube. They really do different things. TikTok seems most optimized for the passive receiver of vapid content use case. You can actually do exactly that with reddit if you browse without logging in and never click a comment thread. The top 1% (and bottom 1%) of interesting TikToks end up on Reddit anyway. Facebook/Insta are explicitly about your life and the lives of your acquaintances. TikTok seems more like competition for Netflix really.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by tootie » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 10:05 PM UTC

mtrovo wrote: post #158

Are we seeing apex Facebook? I still have a lot of friends that use it daily but it's all for things that don't hold a company with a 1T market cap. Anecdotal data: - Facebook usage from my feed it's just older family members posting cheesy political posts and selling items on marketplace - Instagram became a selling channel for brands, be it with their accounts or with "partnerships" with meme/influencer pages. I se…

Facebook (and YouTube) are at peak awareness and penetration and now moving along the maturity model to squeeze more and more revenue from the audience they have. It will 1000% percent happen to TikTok and probably way faster than the others.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by jjaammee » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 10:05 PM UTC

Never been a TikTok or Facebook user, although I had installed both apps a while ago and deleted within a day. Maybe I missed something interesting but I'm sure it's trivial and would forget soon. But I'll buy TikTok stock if available since it's likely very profitable like FB.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by nos4A2 » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 10:05 PM UTC

ALittleLight wrote: post #250

aerosmile wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you had an issue with Zuck calling early Facebook users "dumb f**ks," wait until you find out what's going on behind the closed Tik Tok doors. You have to remember - we're still in the honeymoon phase with Tik Tok and haven't learned to hate them yet. Once the media and all your friends start sharing hatred about Tik Tok, leaks are going to start coming out, and there will be all the other fun ways through which w…

The thesis for America exceeding China in the near term future that I have heard is "Our Chinese will beat their Chinese." [1] 1 - https://alphastar.academy/us-team-wins-1st-place-at-internat...

I wouldn't take that for granted at all, the last 4 years will definitely have a lasting impact on any brain gain the US might've had.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by linspace » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 10:05 PM UTC

reggieband wrote: post #66

I like to think of TikTok as the crack cocaine of addictive social media. I used to think my dopamine receptors were burned out by the constant barrage of memes I received from reddit, Facebook and Twitter but TikTok proves they can refine that product to make it even more potent. When I visit reddit now it feels behind in the same way Facebook used to feel behind. Facebook's video feature (which they shove into my f…

I don't think the algorithm is that good, it's simply that the content is better.

I used TikTok for a couple of weeks and the product is very good. I uninstalled it not because I didn't like it but because I think it's another step in the wrong direction, for society and for me personally.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 10:07 PM UTC

underwater wrote: post #184

I'm baffled by the glowing endorsements of TikTok on Hacker News of all places. TikTok content comes across as completely vapid. It's like the worst possible mashup of bad television and social media. As a company TikTok seems to have zero goals beyond increasing engagement.

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Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by OldTimeCoffee » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 10:07 PM UTC

zmk5 wrote: post #255

OldTimeCoffee wrote: post #244

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In one case, people are viewing something created specifically for people's entertainment. In the other case, it's detritus or grave goods we're viewing.

What a shockingly simplistic view of art you have. It pains me to know that the cultural artifacts of my people will be viewed by you in the same vein as a 30 second TikTok video.

Are you serious? How do you think the clay pot ended up being recovered by an archeologist? There's pretty much two ways...

You should look up some TikTok creators from Egypt, there is plenty of great stuff out there.

The basic premise of your argument as I understand it is that art is something you see in museums or art is something that has been gated by age or by scholars or by "cultural significance". This is not how art works, some great works were discovered long after the artist had died. TikTok creators create art, some of it good, some of it bad, but it's art all the same.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by dilap » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 10:08 PM UTC

cronix wrote: post #73

mrtksn wrote: post #25

I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

Another thing Tik Tok does is get rid of people who are obese, queer, or otherwise the target of harassment. Their stance is it's easier to get rid of the person being made fun of or limit who can see their videos rather than the 10k people harassing them. > According to Netzpolitik, the social media company instructed moderators to find users who are “susceptible to harassment or cyberbullying based on their physica…

I'm not sure about the allegations, but this certainly does not match my experience -- I have seen an incredibly diverse set of people in my FYP feed.

(I wish YouTube had content discovery like TikTok -- YouTube seems to always want to steer me to either something that's an exact clone of the last thing I watched, or something that's just dumb and super-popular. TikTok is amazing at ferreting out all kinds of veins of interest. It's great.)