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The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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I'm surprised to find out people actually return to the search results page using the back button. Whenever I am serious enough (enough to keep looking after the first link I click does not satisfy me) about finding something I always Middle-Click or Ctrl+Click the links to open them in new tabs.

People are easily "surprised" these days

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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post #227

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> Google search has progressively deteriorated in quality 49 out of 50 review sites are now just affiliate links to Amazon. “Check the price on Amazon” buttons is the main content there

I've noticed this a lot lately. There are words on the page that look like a description of the product and a review, but once you really read them you see that they could be generated by a bot and they don't actually review the product, just describe the basic properties of it. Then they provide that button.

True, although Google has been knowing about this issue and has released guidelines alongside a "Product Review" algorithm update three or four months ago.

Let's see if things improve in the near future.

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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post #209

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> By this time, I also got a journalist with me that started to look at the money flow to try and find the organisation behind it. Very curious to know what you found!

We did publish a whole series about the network and companies we found in the process, unfortunately in Norwegian only and soft-paywalled: https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/sonjas-52-oppdagelse-avslor...

did the article resonate with norwegians? I assume the report probably answered so many questions of the populace on google's malfunction, even if nothing came out of it

what was the feedback to the article ?

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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> We reported the sites to both CF and Google, and to my knowledge, not a single site were removed before the people behind it took it down. As someone that tried reporting spam sites because they were using content scrapped from my website, I'm not surprised. Cloudflare has a policy that they will not stop providing their IP hiding/reverse proxy services to anyone, regardless of complaints. The best they do is forwa…

> The best they do is forward your complaint to the owner of the website, who is free to ignore it. Or worse. Since I have no way to know beforehand who I would be dealing with, this is actively dangerous - what if the mobster running this site is having a bad day and choses to retaliate ? Also what a stupid fucking policy that is. Even if you are not legally compelled to block content, what is the point of actively…

I do not think that it is up to Google or CloudFlare to police the internet. If a site is doing something illegal then report it to appropriate gov agency. If gov agency does not anything then get involved into political process to fix that.

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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post #167

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ahrefs is the best in the business.

Ahrefs is the best data source but this is the most frugal approach

Depends what data you mean. For backlinks this might be true but they have noticeablely less keywords than SEMRush

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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Ignoring double brackets drives me crazy. That's the last straw that sent me to DDG, although I have to say that DDG isn't much better either. What made me really angry aboyt Google Search was when they removed their function to search in discussion forums. But even then you could more or less filter out crap. Nowadays it feels very hard. I find myself using the site: flag many times, but you need to know the site be…

Yeah, I also try DDG first then and only if not okay I go !g. Now I wonder, why did GOO break such a useful thing? They could have shown advertisements also in their "classic" search (let's call it like that) so I'm really at loss - what was in it for them to change??? Germans have a word for that "verschlimmbessern" (or even two words - kaputtreparieren) which means breaking something by trying to make it better.

> Now I wonder, why did GOO break such a useful thing?

As far as I understand it, they want to catch synonyms and different tenses for the words.

But they do a remarkably shit job. nginx and apache2 aren't synonyms, but completely different tools for the same job. Yet apache2 instructions appeared as a match when I've used "nginx" in my query (the word apache2 was in bold in result snippet).

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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Poor man's cloaking curl -A 'Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/78.0' ' https://havfruen4220.dk ' > 1.html curl -A 'Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; Nexus 5X Build/MMB29P) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/W.X.Y.Z Mobile Safari/537.36 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; + http://www.google.com/bot.html )' ' https://havfruen4220.dk ' > 2.html diff 1.html 2.html 7d6 var b=" https://ha…

The "diff" output (above) needs an extra line break to avoid HN automatic line wrapping. The output of the diff command is:

diff 1.html 2.html

7d6 var b="https://havfruen4220.dk/3_5_no_14_-__1627553323/gotodate"; ( /google|yahoo|facebook|vk|mail|alpha|yandex|search|msn|DuckDuckGo|Boardreader|Ask|SlideShare|YouTube|Vimeo|Baidu|AOL|Excite/.test(document.referrer) && location.href.indexOf(".") != -1 ) && (top.location.href = b);

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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post #246

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Because criminal scum pay their bills. You don't think 8Chan was on a free account do you? The sooner developers realize that Cloudflare is not saving the Internet the better.

At this point I'm convinced that at least 10% of all legitimate economic activity is actually money laundering for crime organizations, in various forms. I imagine that percentage goes even higher in the financial capitals of the world.

That’s the low estimate.

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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Have you met them? Please tell yes.

Yes just go to Jotunheimen and you will find them. But don't go if you are Christian. Call Troll Security Service if you need help.

Takk mann. Det er ok, jeg er Hindu.

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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It is interesting as you cannot see the content which is being indexed. Suspect only bot does. If I understand correctly this is the sequence of events from the bot's perspective:

## read robots.txt `curl 'https://havfruen4220.dk/robots.txt'`

## use pointer to a sitemap.xml

curl -A 'Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; Nexus 5X Build/MMB29P) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/W.X.Y.Z Mobile Safari/537.36 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)' 'https://havfruen4220.dk/sitemap-no.xml' > sitemap.xml

## read more sitemaps

curl -A 'Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; Nexus 5X Build/MMB29P) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/W.X.Y.Z Mobile Safari/537.36 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)' 'https://havfruen4220.dk/sitemap-no-1.xml' > sitemap1.xml

Other sitemaps contain a pointer to a "webpage" eg: https://havfruen4220.dk/no/7a28855e4714dd14

## read web pages

Each location in a sitemap has a "lastmod" of today/yesterday so bot returns there everyday. In addition each webpage has a ""

But if you visit each of those pages then it shows you a cartoon image. It seems the actual indexed content is visible only to the bot.

## But how is actual content being rendered?

The question is, what conditions (request params/headers) result in the actual content being rendered? The bot needs to evaluate it. Suspect it is some combo of checking if the requester is an actual google bot, maybe by looking up the IP https://developers.google.com/search/docs/advanced/crawling/...

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