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Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by xupybd » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 7:39 PM UTC

bluedino wrote: post #239

Bud wrote: post #220

The real story here is how great the internet service can be now in a civilized country if you don't let Comcast have monopolies and ban local internet cooperatives and coast along selling the same service for 15 years while raising prices. 25Gbps symmetric for about $70/month. That's significantly less than I pay Comcast for its crappy 900Mbps down/40Mbps up service.

We have a couple fiber companies in our town (USA), and we have been shopping for internet. Currently we have fiber from AT&T. One is over a mile down the road and they want $90,000 to connect and then $1750 a month for 1gbps. Another company is two blocks away, they will only charge $8,000 to connect and it’s $1,550 a month for the same speed. Problem is there aren’t many other companies in the area that want servic…

I'm in New Zealand, a small island nation. I have 1gbps for around $70 USD per month. The install was free. I get a VoIP phone and Prime video subscription included.

Most of my devices are wireless so I really don't take advantage of the speed.

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by gspr » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 7:41 PM UTC

Bud wrote: post #220

The real story here is how great the internet service can be now in a civilized country if you don't let Comcast have monopolies and ban local internet cooperatives and coast along selling the same service for 15 years while raising prices. 25Gbps symmetric for about $70/month. That's significantly less than I pay Comcast for its crappy 900Mbps down/40Mbps up service.

This is indeed great, but keep in mind that this story is about one of the well-known greatest: Init7.

They're well-known as a for-geeks-by-geeks service. I was massively impressed by them when I lived in CH.

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 7:42 PM UTC

bluedino wrote: post #239

Bud wrote: post #220

The real story here is how great the internet service can be now in a civilized country if you don't let Comcast have monopolies and ban local internet cooperatives and coast along selling the same service for 15 years while raising prices. 25Gbps symmetric for about $70/month. That's significantly less than I pay Comcast for its crappy 900Mbps down/40Mbps up service.

We have a couple fiber companies in our town (USA), and we have been shopping for internet. Currently we have fiber from AT&T. One is over a mile down the road and they want $90,000 to connect and then $1750 a month for 1gbps. Another company is two blocks away, they will only charge $8,000 to connect and it’s $1,550 a month for the same speed. Problem is there aren’t many other companies in the area that want servic…

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Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by sschueller » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 7:48 PM UTC

Bud wrote: post #220

The real story here is how great the internet service can be now in a civilized country if you don't let Comcast have monopolies and ban local internet cooperatives and coast along selling the same service for 15 years while raising prices. 25Gbps symmetric for about $70/month. That's significantly less than I pay Comcast for its crappy 900Mbps down/40Mbps up service.

The primary reason the cost for init7 is so low is that for example in Zürich city the fiber network is owned by the city (like water pipes and power lines) and paid for by the tax payer. Any provider can provide their service over it.

Places outside the city that don't have these kinds of fiber connections aren't this lucky.

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by tyingq » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 7:50 PM UTC

deckard1 wrote: post #254

tyingq wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would go with a used SuperMicro A1SAI-2750F motherboard. It comes with an Atom 8-core C2750 (20w TDP) and a single 8 lane PCIe slot, but doesn't need active cooling. Supports ECC ram too. There's a passive heatsink on the CPU that works fine. I believe that would keep up with 2x10gb, be quiet, and power efficient. They are $200 or so used on eBay. So not terribly expensive for something that can push 10g. And it wi…

I'd probably go with SuperMicro X10SDV-4C-TLN2F. It already has 10GbE. Xeon D-1521 2x 10GbE ports onboard 6x SATA3 ports Accepts ECC RDIMM DDR4 (usually cheaper than UDIMM ECC) 1x PCIe 3.0 x16 1x M.2 slot There is one on ebay right now for $230 USD shipped. Also, if you're going for lower power consumption I believe you can disable the IPMI and the 2nd 10GbE port if you don't need it. There are other ways to reduce c…

>There is one on ebay right now for $230 USD shipped.

Ah, yeah, that's a better deal with the 2x onboard 10Gbe.

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by timClicks » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 7:53 PM UTC

xupybd wrote: post #261

bluedino wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have a couple fiber companies in our town (USA), and we have been shopping for internet. Currently we have fiber from AT&T. One is over a mile down the road and they want $90,000 to connect and then $1750 a month for 1gbps. Another company is two blocks away, they will only charge $8,000 to connect and it’s $1,550 a month for the same speed. Problem is there aren’t many other companies in the area that want servic…

I'm in New Zealand, a small island nation. I have 1gbps for around $70 USD per month. The install was free. I get a VoIP phone and Prime video subscription included. Most of my devices are wireless so I really don't take advantage of the speed.

Which ISP are you with?

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by ksec » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 7:53 PM UTC

The most surprising details was [1] from init7.

>Compatibility requirements There is no obligation on you to procure the hardware through us, and the hardware shown here is not the only possible hardware for you to use. There are also other compatible products, as long as the requisite «bi-di» fibre optic technology conforms to the following specifications (recommended: Flexoptix, more router information):

No Modem / ONT. Just a Router with compatible SFP optic. I wish more ISP do that. And not force me to use your crappy ONT or Wifi Router. They could of course go another router and provide actual decent ONT or WiFi Router. But the chance of happening, or they care about quality is slim.

[1] https://www.init7.net/en/internet/hardware/

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by underscore_ku » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 8:00 PM UTC

Bud wrote: post #220

The real story here is how great the internet service can be now in a civilized country if you don't let Comcast have monopolies and ban local internet cooperatives and coast along selling the same service for 15 years while raising prices. 25Gbps symmetric for about $70/month. That's significantly less than I pay Comcast for its crappy 900Mbps down/40Mbps up service.

1Gb/s in Romania is 10$/month

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by hackcasual » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 8:04 PM UTC

xupybd wrote: post #261

bluedino wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have a couple fiber companies in our town (USA), and we have been shopping for internet. Currently we have fiber from AT&T. One is over a mile down the road and they want $90,000 to connect and then $1750 a month for 1gbps. Another company is two blocks away, they will only charge $8,000 to connect and it’s $1,550 a month for the same speed. Problem is there aren’t many other companies in the area that want servic…

I'm in New Zealand, a small island nation. I have 1gbps for around $70 USD per month. The install was free. I get a VoIP phone and Prime video subscription included. Most of my devices are wireless so I really don't take advantage of the speed.

I hit ~400mbps on my pixel 4a's wifi with 802.11ac in a moderately congested environment. With WiFi 6 I would probably saturate

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by cptskippy » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 8:05 PM UTC

j1elo wrote: post #4

I'm always amazed by people who don't bat an eye on the perspective of having a home server, sucking up electricity 24/7. In this case replacing a typical router (which consumes like a lightbulb), with a full-fledged PC (probably consuming like x100 the power). I guess some people around the world have quite cheap utility bills! For me, it's either a Raspberry Pi type of power consumption, or else a server that only…

My home has a 0.5-0.7kWh idle load, with the varying 0.2kWh being from the refrigerators cycling. I tried shutting down my NAS and Home server and it was less than 0.1kWh.

I'm at a loss to explain exactly what is drawing 0.4kWh of power but my neighbor has a similar load on his. I'm suspecting all of the fancy and useless motion/astro light switches installed are partially to blame but there's no easy way to verify that.