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Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by btdmaster »

megous wrote: post #214
gjm11 wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Firefox is not free software because it is able to run un-free binary blobs on your computer, then the same is true of (e.g.) Linux.

Yeah, just disable the loader if you don't like it. Kinda unfair to call the whole system unfree for just being able to load non-free software.

Unfortunately some of the Linux kernel mainline has questionable licensing too. [1] In short, [2] and [3] are probably linux-firmware territory in the mainline kernel.

[1] https://www.fsfla.org/pipermail/linux-libre/2020-August/0034...

[2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/lin...

[3] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/lin...

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by tgv »

leodriesch wrote: post #53

It is fascinating how much negative feedback the redesign is getting on HN. I am using it on Mac and Windows now and I think it is great! The Firefox design always felt very dated compared to Chrome, Safari and Edge. Not the case anymore :)

There have changes I disliked, but since a while it's become better. For me. This change, however ... I don't fancy the new tabs (macOS). It feels like they want to be pushed, like a button. Either that, or that they're not really part of the browser, but a third party application floating over the window. I'll get used to it, I suppose, but it's not love at first sight.

But if you didn't like the preceding batch of changes, and then this one comes along, I can imagine you're going to give negative feedback. It surprised me more to see so many people that like it!

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by black7375 »

butz wrote: post #233

Good thing that userChrome.css is still working, and one individual even took on the task of fixing this UI update while it was happening: https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix .

Yes. I am it's author. Thank you for your interest

=== Some introduction about this.

Proton(https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Proton)Firefox’s new design released June.01 Photon is 88 or lower design.

Proton’s overall feel is good, but there were a few things I didn’t like and wanted to improve.

- Padding gaps are wide

- Remove icons from panel

- A tab that looks like a button

- Tab indicators (Ex. Only one of the favicon and sound icon is displayed)

I've improved all of these things.

- Padding & Icon: https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix#padding-comparis...

- Tab Indicators: https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix/wiki/Screenshots...

I've also provided a version for those who like Photon.

- https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix/tree/photon-styl...

Experimental legacy edge like hover effect feature: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/25581533/118779970...

- https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix/tree/interactive...

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by ziml77 »

Vinnl wrote: post #158
viraptor wrote: post #55

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> more info on tabs now, e.g. when a tab is playing audio. That was present for a few versions now. Playing tabs had the audio icon which could be used to mute/unmute.

I didn't mean the icon, but there's now a line for actual text besides the page title, which I'm assuming is/can be used to display useful info.

Can it? My bar is full of tabs so all I see there is "PLAY" (the fading at the end of the button makes the "I" and "N" hard to see and the "G" is completely gone)

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by myfonj »

robbyking wrote: post #250
arrayjumper wrote: post #56

I don't like the removal of tab separators. Now all the background tabs kind of merge into one large mega tab :( for example - https://i.ibb.co/p4LWvtb/2021-06-01-19-12-43-3841x169.png

One of my biggest complaints about Firefox is how much work I have to do in my userChrome.css to make it look nice. My current one is almost 400 lines and it's mostly adding separators/element padding, changing border radiuses and disabling hover and focus styles.

Same. Mine is similarly large [1], with lots of legacy/dead code and comments. Increasingly ceasing to be fun to maintain.

OTOH, the only other browser that lets you tweak its chrome with your CSS is AFAIK Vivaldi.

[1] https://gist.github.com/myfonj/f5415dd0580663a82ea18407ef2ee...

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by radley »

fsflover wrote: post #195
conradfr wrote: post #122

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On a Mac ?

Can't you use triple tap like on any modern Linux?

That's too much work. I wrote a Perl script to detect if a tab has been unused for a specific amount of time based on a Vim spreadsheet I wrote back in grad school and send a command line prompt to kill the page after updating all cookies with a randomized hash using only CJK unified ideographs.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by pantulis »

ironMonkey wrote: post #227
pantulis wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What!? This makes it unusable for me.

I'm afraid that's the case. Was hoping that native menus meant tighter integration with the Mac, but turned out to be something very different.

One step forward, two backwards, sigh.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by Scarbutt »

sorenjan wrote: post #231

I find it infuriating how designers keep adding more and more whitespace and padding on my desktop computer. If you want to make your UI easier to use on touch devices that's fine, but Windows 10 has a tablet mode that I keep disabled, so there's no reason to assume I'm not using a mouse. If I go to Customize toolbar there's three density options: Touch, Normal, and Compact (not supported). Why aren't there a support…

'Compact' is flagged as not supported but looks like it still works.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by myfonj »

kevincox wrote: post #10

Does anyone feel that this new UI brings notable improvement? I don't think it is much worse, other than taking some extra vertical space but for the most part my reaction is "meh". I feel like these resources could have been spent much better in other parts of the browser. Am I missing some reason why this is worth the investment?

Besides floating tabs I find rest of Proton overhaul pretty good: better contrast, subjectively nicer colours, better focus styles, nice icons.

After removing all corner rounding and tweaking tab bar I am quite happy.

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