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I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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Re: I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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post #259

Just take a mental note while reading this article, those people that moved out, probably had to move out because there was no place/work for them there. He is a wealthy man that owns a farm. Same story about someone who would be a bartender in a local pub, where he was just an employee serving local drunks, would be much sadder one.

I don't know, big difference between running a farm and working as a bartender.

Re: I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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> I know exactly what the parent comment means. Well, firstly, there was a misunderstanding in the parent comment, but ignoring that, I understand you are saying that you derive enjoyment from new experiences, which you have actively sought out for at least a decade, and don't enjoy the company of people who are not like that. But do you mean to say that you wouldn't enjoy meeting an old Welsh farmer who is not like…

No, it's nothing like that. I was referring to this... > people frantically trying to experience "new" things as an effort to quiet the constant agitation of their souls ...and pointing out that there are different kinds of, I guess, opportunistic openness. One is the normal, well-adjusted kind where you say sure, let's try some Chinese food or hey, I've never been to Wales, should we go to Cardiff this weekend? It's…

OK.

I used to be in Anthony Bourdain mode. In that time, Michael Palin mode seemed a world away - non-resonant and unobtainable.

Eventually I changed into Michael Palin!

Re: I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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I tried eating a particular dish every day for a while. (To the exclusion of other foods.) I didn't get tired of it -- I loved it and still do. But I had to stop because, after a while of this, I would still be hungry after eating a large meal. My stomach would be physically full, but I'd be hungry anyway. I'm still not sure what the problem was. It was a dish basically consisting of lentils, onions, and shredded chi…

Your body was probably carving some nutrient not found in your dish

Yes, I agree, but I'd like to know what it was. Best guess so far is fat.

Re: I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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post #259

Just take a mental note while reading this article, those people that moved out, probably had to move out because there was no place/work for them there. He is a wealthy man that owns a farm. Same story about someone who would be a bartender in a local pub, where he was just an employee serving local drunks, would be much sadder one.

>He is a wealthy man that owns a farm.

He's got 70 sheep mate. In Romania (IIRC) they'll unironically gift you farms like this because there's nobody else there to maintain them and you basically get some land for free. As the man himself points out it's a very simple life that involves a lot of hard work during all seasons, he's not privileged. Most people move out because life even in the service industry is easier.

Re: I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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That's certainly one kind of minimalism, but I think it goes well beyond what GP intended. While your comment and lifestyle seems earnest, it's a bit too far for most given the GP context, in the sense that rather than minimizing the time taken to do routine things, it optimizes many of them out entirely to the point that it does not appear practicable for most (ex. mattress being the only furniture). Such things can…

I tried living without a mattress for a while. It wasn't super comfortable but it wasn't really a major problem till winter, at which point I realized I would need some more insulation, and a mattress seemed like the best bang for the buck. I might be able to make do without if I lived in a warmer place. Right now, though, the place I'm renting came furnished, so it's not an issue. (Bonus with a furnished place - I d…

That's pretty much the exact philosophy I live by. I've definitely found no bed frame to be a hard-sell to family and friends, and it's hard to see why once you've tried all the options. A mattress makes a lot of sense, but a bed frame adds little value unless you are short on storage and one has storage built in, or you aren't mobile enough to get to the ground. But maybe I'm missing some utility that others have found in their bedframes!

Living in Japan now, I had a few months with a padded mat + quilt on the floor as is tradition (and a damn cheap one), but upgraded to a mattress on the floor because the floor was too cold in winter as you mentioned.

There's as much to be gained from taking stuff away that isn't useful, as there is from adding useful stuff to your life.

Re: I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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"This valley is cut in the shape of my heart". I've known farmers like him, bachelors who are mild mannered and love their lives and the extended family that comes with living an entire life in one valley. He maybe goes to Sunday service for socialization and the local pub to watch the game, and as long as his sheep are healthy and the sky does what it promises (because he knows the day before always if it will rain), the peace he feels is the result of being in place, of not creating too much fuss, the satisfaction of seeing the stone walls he built in his 20s holding strong and knowing they'll be there long after to tell his story. He leaves behind him more of a legacy than many of us.

Re: I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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post #259

Just take a mental note while reading this article, those people that moved out, probably had to move out because there was no place/work for them there. He is a wealthy man that owns a farm. Same story about someone who would be a bartender in a local pub, where he was just an employee serving local drunks, would be much sadder one.

What makes you say he's wealthy?

Re: I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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Happiness - he's found it. Sure, he's an extreme and very few want to emulate it because there's a mild element of delusion. But, he's found the thing so many of us work our entire lives for only to never find. Part of life is letting happiness find you, part of life is finding happiness, and part of life is pushing away things to find happiness in what you have. I say, well done.

you did use the word "mild". but it made me wonder if not every person I've ever encountered that looked happy seemed like that a bit.

The happier somebody is the more deluded they look to the rest of us. People in love are perhaps the most obvious. But it says probably more about the observer.

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