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Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by rektide »

dusklight wrote: post #137
kristiandupont wrote: post #96

This is exciting and all -- and much as I would love to see a serious competitor to Facebook, I still don't know how I would convince any of my non-techie friends that they should switch to this. Circles? Actually I think that many people like the idea of their posts are being read by as many people as possible and not just the ones with similar interests. Although it looks like a big discussion group, the news feed…

Hangouts is going to drive adoption. It's chat roulette without the roulette.

Actually it's just Stickam. One that encourages you to be a leet idler.

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Post by Terretta »

jcampbell1 wrote: post #212

I am quite impressed, but one thing that is severely broken is the number of duplicate names in the list. Basically if a person has two email addresses, then they show up twice. This would not be a big deal, but the email addresses are hidden, and it is impossible to tell which is an old/work email address rather than a personal one. I hope this is fixed soon.

> ... the email addresses are hidden, and it is impossible to tell which is an old/work email address rather than a personal one. I hope this is fixed soon.

Skype 5 has been broken in this way, showing a half dozen indistinguishable items naming the same person when you try to add someone to an existing call.

It still is broken, months later.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by commandar »

barista wrote: post #225
ianb wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't you just hide friends with consistently boring messages? I do, and people I know do. It's a big stick, compared to some more subtle faceting, but it mostly works fine, while putting some pressure on the reader to accept a certain amount of tedium in those people I still want to listen to. There's also event spam, but that one category you can filter out separately (i.e., "ignore events from person X").

Facebook already has a conceprt of groups. I frequently share my updates/pictures with only to select set of groups. It's just that it is a bit hard to use it. Nothing that facebook can't fix. Don't know what is so great about this.

The problem is that friend groups in Facebook are an afterthought at best and horrifically broken at times. To the point that they're nearly useless. I've had multiple instances of Facebook deciding to ignore my default post settings for a type of post or album, posting it wide open when it should have been restricted to a certain friend group (mobile apps are especially bad about this, IME).

Things I want to share with friends of family may not be things I want coworkers seeing. I don't want to share photos of drunken antics with bar friends with my grandparents. I don't want updates about a sick relative to become office gossip.

Yes, the feature sort of exists in Facebook to kind of get this functionality, but there is a massive appeal in a network that treats the idea that not all acquaintances are equal as a core concept. And because it's a central value of the network, I have a lot more faith that it should actually work than the Facebook model, which has already failed me plenty of times in the past.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by zach »

farnsworth wrote: post #256
pthatcherg wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't Yahoo and DDG use Bing for their search results? If so, Bing is the only alternative on your list.

Hm, looks like Alta-Vista is still around...

The results come via a rebranded Yahoo! search, which itself consists of rebranded Bing results.

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Post by vibrunazo »

ignifero wrote: post #113

Anybody knows about 3rd party apps? Sure uncle Google has considered us developers ...

They didn't say anything yet. But yes, I'm sure they'll have some exciting API for us to toy with.

AppEngine + Social Circles + Spark interest graph = drools

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by natural219 »

muppetman wrote: post #259
farnsworth wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are in the high school - college - internships - jobs life stage that lots of Facebook users are in, you have a high friend turnover rate. You meet lots of people who you want to add on Facebook, then later maybe you want to keep them around so you can see what they're up to but don't want their posts mixed in with posts from your current close friends. And there's a thousand variations and stages in between.

Well I respectfully disagree. I don't think it's too hard to figure out if someone is really a friend or just someone you've met a few times. And if add them just to "see what they're up to" then sure, you're going to get noise. I also think if you're adding people to your Facebook that have anything to do with your employment you're insane. But maybe it is because I am 30+ that these distinctions to me seem very cle…

"If you are in the high school - college - internships - jobs life stage"

Read: Not you.

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Post by cbr »

underwater wrote: post #244
simonw wrote: post #178

""" Oops... you need a Google profile to use this feature. Google Profiles is not available for your organization. """ Grr. Google /really/ need to fix their authentication scheme.

It's frustrating that they don't let you switch for different services. I have my own domain under Google Apps I use for "work stuff" as well as a Gmail account I use for stuff I don't care about. If I visit YouTube after using my work account I get that crappy error page. There is no reason my YouTube session should be tied to what email account I'm looking at. I don't see why at the very least it can't say: "Hey, y…

http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/08/google-multiple-sig...

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Post by cbr »

scarmig wrote: post #208

I'm playing around with the trial. Some thoughts: 1) Extremely slick interface. Facebook beat MySpace in part because it was relatively clean; Google+ wins here by a mile. That reason alone makes me root for it. 2) It's Google's umpteenth foray into the social arena, so naturally most people are comparing it to Facebook. But its use cases strike me as being more comparable to Twitter than FB. 3) People can be categor…

> I have one friend who I both bike with and play board games with.

I think that's your problem. If you keep your social circles separate you don't have to worry about this, online or off.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by natural219 »

yalogin wrote: post #71
wccrawford wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally agree. Wave died partially because when I got it, my friends didn't have it. And by the time the last of them got it, the rest of us didn't care any more. Had we been able to all get on at once, we might have found a killer app for it and never given it up.

Wave died because no one (not even developers) understood what it is or what applications could it have outside of mail.

This sentence is baffling to me. Do you not know what Wave does? Really? Or do you NEED a marketing person to tell you how to use a product?

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by ignifero »

vibrunazo wrote: post #265
ignifero wrote: post #113

Anybody knows about 3rd party apps? Sure uncle Google has considered us developers ...

They didn't say anything yet. But yes, I'm sure they'll have some exciting API for us to toy with. AppEngine + Social Circles + Spark interest graph = drools

Looking at this: http://www.google.com/intl/en/+/policy/ it seems the data will be available through an api (i presume oauth )
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