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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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I can’t look up a recipe for boiled eggs without coming upon a 15 paragraph essay with ads in between each paragraph. It’s so obnoxious now. I don’t mind that people want to monetize, but it’s getting off putting when it is so obnoxious.

On recipe blogs, you are probably not looking at the actual author monetizing. Rather, someone decided to create a copycat website, hire a minimum-wage content writer off a freelancing platform to rewrite the original text so that no copyright violation is apparent, and then they put the copycat website up with a boatload of advertising and SEO. The 15 paragraphs are an SEO trick, as Google gives higher weight to lon…

Yeah, exactly. Although in addition to the text acting as SEO, the initial reasoning behind all the "recipes-as-blogs" approaches is that recipes are not in general copyrightable, as they aren't generally considered creative works. (Whether the food itself is a creative work is not the question, it's whether the text qualifies as such.) So cookbook/recipe blog writers add enough text to the recipe to make the content subject to copyright protections.

Then, as you note, when people do inevitably copy the recipe, they churn out new replacement text.

You'll notice, for instance, that a recipe 'database' site like allrecipes doesn't have these massive text blocks associated with user-posted recipes, because there's no need or desire to have those be copyrighted.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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As I understand it, it's Apples fault for requiring all browsers delivered by it's App Store to be basically wrappers around Safari.

How has Apple not been strung up on antitrust grounds over this?

Because IOS is a small fraction of the smartphone and PC market.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Sucks, but I'm pretty locked into Chrome. I use GSuite for management, ChromeOS, etc. Maybe it means that uBlock Origin can't protect me as well, but it's pretty hard for me to give up the benefits from all of those other things. I don't see Firefox competing. Mozilla doesn't seem to believe that monetizing a browser is possible, whereas I pay thousands of dollars a year at my company because of Chrome's integrations…

What situation (job or whatever) has led to such vendor lock-in? Maybe if you gave more details others could avoid your situation.

Just to give clarification:

a) We're a small tech startup. We use Chromebooks exclusively because it makes corpops/corpsec and compliance trivial.

b) Why not Firefox? Maybe Firefox could work, but I'm not sure - with GSuite we can manage Chrome extensions via policy, we can manage Chrome versions, Context Aware Access, etc.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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I guess the issue with proxying is that the ad provider has less control/data and can't be sure whether views are genuine.

That’s great if you’re right, because it means it is a fundamental limitation that can’t easily be worked around.

They will work around it by being your DNS provider and proxy for your site.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

Anymore? I don't think browsing on a phone was ever viable. The problems changed over time, but I never found myself using the browser for anything other than absolute necessity. It's sad really. Back in the day Opera with Turbo (or whatever it was called) was the peak of mobile browser usability for me.

Firefox does support no script on mobile! It's great

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Wow, what an awesome dive into some of the technical aspects behind one of my favorite tools for using the web. And I do think of it that way these days, it's fairly stunning on some sites to switch off all the block and see how they become genuinely unbrowsable. I remember seeing Gorhill discuss a few times over the years some of the reqs for uBO during certain times (like why it could no longer work with Safari fol…

I guess the issue with proxying is that the ad provider has less control/data and can't be sure whether views are genuine.

Unless the ad provider proxy the site instead of the ads. That way they get more control/data.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Such a shame uMatrix was discontinued. uBlock Origin comes close, and surpasses in some ways (I used both for that reason) but lacks separate control of cookies, images, scripts, etc. So you can't accept a particular third party's images without also accepting its scripts, cookies, etc. I mention it mainly in the hope that we can popularise its maintained fork 'nuTensor'. After trying uBlock (as in attempting to also…

I'm in the same boat. My main objection to uBO is the cryptic UI. I have no idea what the two columns to the right of a domain are as there's no column headings, or the two nested buttons in each column, one of which is grey (where I'd assume there'd be green to counter the red?), or the "+"/"++" that sometimes appear over said buttons... Or the green bars that creep in from the far left over the domain names, at sta…

Having the exact same issues. If someone could clarify that would be awesome.
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