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I hope work from home continues

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Re: I hope work from home continues

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Post by fireeyed »

There is no reason for knowledge based employee living in suburbs to commute to a local commuter station for 30 mins and get on a train, travel for another hour and half and take another hour to settle down at the office cubicle.

If the employee was successfully able to work for an entire year remotely its totally unnecessary to be in the office.

Of course there are vested interests. Corporate Real Estate divisions who scare the crap out of Csuite that they are going to lose control of their employees if they dont "herd" them back (yes this is nothing more than herding sheep) into their pens at the offices.

Re: I hope work from home continues

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Post by hemloc_io »

yardie wrote: post #88
benrbray wrote: post #33

Those of you who think that remote-work-by-default would be a good thing, can I ask how your companies are handling career progression and collaboration, as well as mentorship of junior developers? Listen to Adam Savage [1] talk about his early career as a prop-maker. I just don't see how that sort of deep collaboration is possible remotely. As a recent graduate whose first full-time job has been full remote due to t…

It's killing me slowly right now. I got hired in the middle of the pandemic and I think just 6 people even know I exist. I've spent more time talking with HR than my team members. Not for what you think, I respond to their emails and chats so we get along great. My team is mostly on DnD, no idea what their working on and emails take 24-48 hours to respond.

Totally feel that, I'm in the same position.

Interns we've on-boarded, especially from non-CS background programs, all have had these kinds of issues.

It's been getting better, but I don't see how it's possible to have anything close to "real" mentor-ship schemes with full WFH. When I was interning most of learning happened not with my project but with interacting with the team and seeing/understanding what they did.

I have a sneaking feeling that the productivity boosts due to WFH mostly come from more senior devs w/ specific workstreams that are benefiting from more "head down" time, but without mentoring/training new ppl the quality hiring pool will go down over time.

Re: I hope work from home continues

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Post by ciguy »

benrbray wrote: post #33

Those of you who think that remote-work-by-default would be a good thing, can I ask how your companies are handling career progression and collaboration, as well as mentorship of junior developers? Listen to Adam Savage [1] talk about his early career as a prop-maker. I just don't see how that sort of deep collaboration is possible remotely. As a recent graduate whose first full-time job has been full remote due to t…

Your concerns are valid. I think this is really an opportunity to get intentional about networking and learning within your company. Everyone else is presumably in the same boat, so if I was early in my career I would focus on becoming the best remote networker and learner possible.

Most people will just go with the flow and not really adapt intentionally to the situation so in some ways you may be able to actually stand out more than normal with less effort.

Re: I hope work from home continues

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Post by [deleted] »

antiterra wrote: post #127
Hypergraphe wrote: post #37

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And, as a matter of fact, we now have the proof that remote work is efficient at large scale in our industry. It shatters all the false ideas about loss of productivity, lack of communication. I never communicated as efficiently as now as opposed to when I was in my open space, always disturbed by subjects that did not concern me.

I don’t think we have this proof? At best, we have evidence it works ‘well enough.’ There are still people who hate online meetings, who have a negative physical reaction to it and are unable to engage. The people playing online video games during the day I run into who have to go afk for a few moments to ‘get a work call’ are likely to have reduced productivity. (Probably double for kids who are doing online school.…

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Post by dexterdog »

riscy wrote: post #210
blunte wrote: post #170

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In my remote experience, I definitely don't talk to my colleagues that much. But when you're trying to build a small company, one approach is to make it feel like a family. And families always have people we like and people we like not so much. But there's something special about one unit working toward a single goal. My design is for a startup with young people. This would not work nearly as well for older people an…

Ah yes, the founder’s dream: gaining familial power over young people’s entire lives to further your start-up, before they realize they should develop a life of their own outside of work to avoid complete burnout.

I can almost hear his "Our Incredible Journey" post already.

Re: I hope work from home continues

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Post by throwaway823882 »

BitwiseFool wrote: post #51

Covid WFH is a real issue for our new developers. Especially the ones who are fresh out of college. They're missing out on so much institutional knowledge transfer. Especially the kind of monkey-see-monkey-do experience you need to build confidence using tools such as git. They're also hesitant to ping coworkers and ask for screen sharing time because they can't sense if the more senior developers are working on some…

It almost sounds like this has exposed flaws in co-working, where nothing gets written down, people are not inviting others to request help/collaboration, and training has to be done manually.

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Post by ajford »

enriquec wrote: post #204
duckfang wrote: post #156

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> You can’t choose to not care. It's all a matter of priorities. If caring means you lose your job, yeah, you're not gonna care. And losing your job in the USA means: hunger, homelessness, no internet, less chance of being hired with unemployment record, assumption that you did something terrible, low/no medical, etc. For many, especially those whom can't save a nest egg of appreciable value (6 months out of work kin…

Total, complete nonsense and lies. We have unemployment here - paid by the employer - and its substantial. I know several people who are even able to increase their savings while unemployed.

Not sure where you're located at, but I've never heard unemployment referred to as "substantial". I've known a number of people who ended up on it, and it's generally a percentage of your normal wage, so I don't know how someone can increase their savings while unemployed unless they were blowing money left & right while employed.

Additionally, in most states you petition for unemployment and then generally have to prove you are eligible. All it takes is one spiteful manager to create a paper trail that you were let go with cause, and in most jurisdictions renders you ineligible. Then it becomes your word against theirs unless you have your own proof to fight back with.

Re: I hope work from home continues

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Post by cm2012 »

r3trohack3r wrote: post #219
cm2012 wrote: post #173

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The companies mandating 100% office time are doing so because their particular executive teams are nuts about it. See Netflix.

Netflix is now hiring full time remote for engineering, reporting to the office post COVID is optional. Source: I’m a full time engineer happily working out of the PHX suburbs. Personally, I have no intention of returning to the Bay Area.

That's cool, I guess Reed Hastings saw the writing on the wall since his September screed against remote work.
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