Wait until the word 'native' gets added to the list of non-inclusive terms.
Lol, this is actually being discussed at major tech companies and the comment is downvoted. 'Black Friday' is also frowned upon as well.
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#262We should probably stop referring to nice teeth as straight and white too. Wouldn’t want to offend. If you can’t disambiguate software development from human abuse the problem is your grasp of semantics not society.
Unfortunately, its not programmers making these decisions. It's non-technical, marketing, and HR departments that copy and paste the terms from the most recent treatise on wokeness.
For the downvoters I only wish you could see the discussions on a couple of company wikis concerning which references to rely upon for the lists. There a hoot.
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#263I'm African and I think these name changes are ludicrous. Why not fix the (hopefully unconscious) hiring biases that surely exist in big tech that ends up hiring overwhelmingly male candidates of European and Asian origin? Reminds me of something Martin Luther King (MLK) said after he started the second phase of his activism. Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts had been passed 1964 and 1965 respectively, so MLK start…
> "Why not fix the (hopefully unconscious) hiring biases that surely exist in big tech that ends up hiring overwhelmingly male candidates of European and Asian origin?"
Speaking of biases, please refrain from lumping us Asians in with whites. Asians had nothing to do with the origins or history of America's race problems.
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#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
If an employer or coworker doesn’t agree to whatever is your latest demand, “you” would start a campaign to get them fired or contact their customers to try to lose them business. Happens regularly.
I mean, that would imply you would prefer a term that is in a way discriminatory to a particular group right? Not in bad faith, but it seems you kind off admitted that there is some evil in doing so, and that you're willing to do it. Also, I wouldn't do that. Emancipating an actual workforce or colleagues would be my solution, not making the company suffer under it.
> that would imply you would prefer a term that is in a way discriminatory to a particular group right?
Here we have an example of how you go about dealing with the issue
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#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
If an employer or coworker doesn’t agree to whatever is your latest demand, “you” would start a campaign to get them fired or contact their customers to try to lose them business. Happens regularly.
I mean, that would imply you would prefer a term that is in a way discriminatory to a particular group right? Not in bad faith, but it seems you kind off admitted that there is some evil in doing so, and that you're willing to do it. Also, I wouldn't do that. Emancipating an actual workforce or colleagues would be my solution, not making the company suffer under it.
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#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
The number of people that _genuinely_ have a problem with the word "master" (excluding all the weird (white) twitter people) is close to zero.
How many people have a problem with the word 'main'?
If 4chan can cause an issue with the "OK" symbol, "main" should be easy for them to mess with. C and C++ will just have to change, along with street names and large water pipes.
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#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s a lot of words to say “this is a good change and nothing has been lost.” Incredible that this post has almost 200 comments.
Time has been lost. When management required this change, it broke some test and deploy automation, and some git non-experts screwed up their clones and needed help.
and there may be security issues down the line due to non-authorized users claiming ownership of "master" branches.
Time is the most precious thing you have in life, you cannot get it back.
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#268I would like to point out that it's perfectly OK to have master/slave relations between computers, hard disks and git branches. The only place where it's problematic is between humans. Perhaps we would do well to remember that words can have different meanings in different contexts. It's nice to try to be considerate of people who are sensitive to certain issues, but at the same time they would do well to limit their…
Exactly. The computer systems have no way way to subjugate each other, with perhaps the exception of the rather extreme STONITH. I think dominant and submissive better captures the relationship between nodes: the nodes agree upon their roles and exchange power in a consenting relationship. If nodes are not agreeing to power exchange, you end up with all kinds of split brain behavior and data corruption.
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#269Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Also, deny list and allow list are more precise terms anyway. Are they? Black/whitelist feels way more natural to me. You can also say things like "blacklisted this ip" instead of "adding to the deny list" or something.
I prefer "blocklist" and "allowlist" which sound more natural to me, but you could certainly use "denylisted this IP".
That's fair. Although I still think blacklist/whitelist is more natural/easier for most people to understand.
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#270I'm African and I think these name changes are ludicrous. Why not fix the (hopefully unconscious) hiring biases that surely exist in big tech that ends up hiring overwhelmingly male candidates of European and Asian origin? Reminds me of something Martin Luther King (MLK) said after he started the second phase of his activism. Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts had been passed 1964 and 1965 respectively, so MLK start…
> " Why not fix the (hopefully unconscious) hiring biases that surely exist in big tech that ends up hiring overwhelmingly male candidates of European and Asian origin? " Speaking of biases, please refrain from lumping us Asians in with whites. Asians had nothing to do with the origins or history of America's race problems.
nothing in the comment implied that, if anything it asked for a stop to look at people as "asians", "whites", "blacks" or anything else and just look at them as people (while remembering that your ability to do so is likely imperfect). we do not need blame we need unity