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Starlink is now Accepting General Pre-orders

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Re: Starlink is now Accepting General Pre-orders

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Post by Clewza313 »

aero-glide2 wrote: post #168
secfirstmd wrote: post #54

I'm currently in the middle of trying to help loads of human rights defenders in Myanmar plan to deal with the internet shut downs that are happening. Satellite stuff like Iridium is too crazily expensive to be useful. I really wish some thing like this was available.

Starlink will always follow local regulations. Its easy for the government to triangulate the location of user terminals.

Starlink will follow local regulations when there's money to be made locally, but what's their incentive to comply with places like Myanmar or North Korea, where the regime is going to prohibit Starlink anyway?

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Post by unionpivo »

They are accepting orders from outside USA.

I was able to order one for Slovenia. It says it will come in 2022. I generally have 2 questions.

1) Will there be local ground stations all over the world ? Or will it depend on laser interconnect only?

2) A lot of countries have local laws about ISP's. Our politicians are currently too busy making us look like idiots on world stage, but other countries generally expect ISPs to comply. Not sure how they intend to handle that.

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Post by herpderperator »

itronitron wrote: post #254
walrus01 wrote: post #40

I have been using a starlink beta terminal for 3 months now, ask me whatever you want. Day job is senior network engineer for a regional-sized (4 US states) fiber based ISP. My most important message to everyone reading this is that it's not intended to compete with properly implemented wireline based services. It's going to absolutely blow away consumer-grade highly oversubscribed, bottom of the barrel ku and ka ban…

How much does it cost?

(I am not OP, but this is pretty easily found on the site.)

$499 USD for the dish, $99 USD per month for service (no data cap.) Price seems to change to local currency if your country is not USA.

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Post by disiplus »

MinorTom wrote: post #260
disiplus wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Having an assigned routable address is not a thing in many countries citation needed

> increasingly uses CGN technologies (90% for mobile internet and 50% for fixed line) https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/are-you-sharing-...

I's 50%, i would not call that "not a thing in many countries" For mobile, it does not usually matter, you have a smartphone, where you would not host something.

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Post by shawabawa3 »

unionpivo wrote: post #262

They are accepting orders from outside USA. I was able to order one for Slovenia. It says it will come in 2022. I generally have 2 questions. 1) Will there be local ground stations all over the world ? Or will it depend on laser interconnect only? 2) A lot of countries have local laws about ISP's. Our politicians are currently too busy making us look like idiots on world stage, but other countries generally expect IS…

Honestly based on Tesla's self driving pre order strategy, I fully expect them to have no plans to roll out to Slovenia but are taking pre-orders anyway

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Post by mianos »

walrus01 wrote: post #64
IgorPartola wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the big issues I’ve had with anything but wired ISPs is latency. They specifically talk about 20-40ms latency being expected in most locations, but don’t specify to where. I currently get about 20 +/- 4 ms from me to 8.8.8.8 consistently. Is their latency to my first hop? Also, what is their IPv6 support like? Can I get a routable /60 or similar? Static IPv4/IPv6? And do you need to use their router or can you…

a. absolute lowest latency I've seen to a major IX point in seattle is about 15.8ms. More often it's 22-23ms. On a longer term, averages between 20-30ms. That's for the combined total of four 550km paths through space plus terrestrial latency from their earth station to seattle. Keep in mind that on something like a DOCSIS3 cable coax last mile segment can have a minimum latency of 12-16ms from just the cablemodem to…

I am on DOCSIS (TPG NBN) and www.google.com is 8ms, 8.8.8.8 8.5ms (actually seems long as the family is watching netflix). Docsis modem bridged to a linux box. 22mS sounds more like mine + wifi.

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Post by sien »

awaaz wrote: post #258

Curious to see how this plays out in a country like mine (India) where the government loves [1] to shut off Internet access on the flimsiest of excuses. Everything from entire states (like Kashmir), to few localities (farmer protests around Delhi) have had their mobile Internet access switched off because the government likes to curtail communication when it suits them. [1] https://www.indiatoday.in/diu/story/more-th…

Great point.

It'll be interesting to see what China does.

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