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What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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> “I don’t think [my humidifier] made any noticeable noise,” my friend Rebecca Rosenberg told me when I asked her about her humidifier, a tower-shaped misting humidifier that she used in her D.C. apartment. “Maybe like a really, really slight noise of the motor but really soft, and I think it helps that because it’s so tall, the motor is on the ground,” as opposed to one that rattles on a table, she says.

Maybe because... it doesn't have a motor.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are there any of those Japanese ones you can buy in North America? Any brands you're aware of? yeah, i'm curious as well.

Alright since you guys asked I found the closest in spec Sharp model to my favorite domestic Sharp. In America KC-850U: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003BF665Y/ref=emc_b_5_t In Japan KC-H50-W: https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B077TC5PM8/ref=ppx_yo_dt... The American offering is an extra 150$, but that buys you marketing videos with a fake scientist pouring baby powder through a filter onto a hepa filter. Japan gets n…

In case anybody is wondering, it looks like the KC-H50-W can be shipped to the US straight from Amazon, but with the 11.4k yen shipping fee the total comes to ~$317.15. About $30 less than the American model.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A teaspoon- of bleach or so for 3 gallons of water will solve your mold issue quite handily, even while sitting. It's not enough to smell even when the humidifier is running at full blast. Just enough to kill bacteria and mold. I'm repeating this advice a lot in this thread, it surprises me it's not better known.

Is that too much bleach though? I do just a few drops in my ~1 gallon humidifier that works continuously in my clone room and it stays clean and even keeps the Serratia bacteria that make the pink stuff in the reservoir at bay. I do use reverse osmosis water to fill it though. Is breathing that much aerosolized chlorine a concern? A calculator I use is here. Tap water is about 2 ppm. https://www.publichealthontario.c…

Your what room?

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I did an exhaustive search and tried them all. The answer is Vornado Evap40. Can easily dump 2 gallons in half a day. Nothing even comes close. Key is moderate negative air pressure. Operating cost is higher than most but well worth it.

If you are sensitive to noise, try the Vornado EVDC lineup. It is smart enough to run the fan at the lowest speed required to maintain the set humidity.

I found hygrometers on these machines to be not so accurate. It hardly matters in my use case because even maxed out at 4 gallons per day, it barely keeps up during winter heating months.

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I'm in Australia, and I've lived in a lot of areas both inland (hot dry) and coastal and humidifiers are that common here. What is it in the US that creates the need/demand for Humidifiers?

Cold air has less of an ability to hold moisture, the colder the air the less moisture it can physically hold. So 100% relative humidity at 20°F is much less moisture than 100% relative humidity at 80°F

When you heat cold winter air to a comfortable room temperature you are increasing it's ability to hold moisture without adding any moisture. This has the effect of decreasing the relative humidity. The bigger the change in temperature the more you decrease humidity by heating it.

Winters are cold enough in some places that indoor relative humidity can easily get so low it effects humans negatively - dry cracked skin, dry cracked mucous membranes, sore throat, static buildup. Add to that low humidity aids in the spreading of viruses.

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I own this model, and use it to humidify a small room. I sympathize with the author's complaints with respect to the difficulty of cleaning it, though mine just doesn't need cleaning very often. And the wick DOES get moldy if you let it sit in wet water for weeks on end. But her other complaints puzzle me: I don't find it to be messy to refill. What is she doing wrong? It's even more baffling that she thinks it "does…

I have this model, and I thought the refill comment was funny too. She's carrying it with the opening pointed down, cap screwed on, but the cap must be leaking. My cap doesn't leak, but I carry mine with the opening up.... so it doesn't matter if the cap leaks. I leave the reservoir open, sitting on my counter each morning so that it dries out, and i run the fan on the unit for a while to dry out the filter (so it do…

I have one of these too. I was baffled by many parts of the commentary. There's obviously a huge range of fastidiousness / standard for cleanliness in people but I have literally never felt the urge to try and pry off the grille to get at the fan blades etc.

And unless there's some kind of catastrophic failure of the gasket on the lid, you're really talking about a few drops of water leaking out, at most, if you carry it by the handle.

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Sat in a damp London flat, with condensation permanently dripping down the windows (despite the dehumidifier running virtually 24/7), I struggle to relate to a world where you would deliberately want to put moisture into the air.

Whenever people talk of turning the thermostat UP to save money my brain rebels.

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Sat in a damp London flat, with condensation permanently dripping down the windows (despite the dehumidifier running virtually 24/7), I struggle to relate to a world where you would deliberately want to put moisture into the air.

Being from NZ, I thought the same. But now I live in the Netherlands in a modern building with radiators for heat. In the colder parts of winter, just taking damp outside air in at around 0° and warming it up to room temperature lowers the relative humidity enough that I can find it pretty dry. It'll be somewhere between 35-45% at this time of year, which is on the low side for me.

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Why do people in New York want a humidifier? Isn't it very humid there?

Keep in mind 30-50% relative humidity is comfortable.

Right now in new york city it's 30°F, 87% relative humidity, and a barometric pressure of 29.45 in.

Using this calculator: https://www.rotronic.com/en-us/humidity_measurement-feuchtem...

We can calculate the specific humidity of NYC, that's around 21.42gr/lb right now. That's the mass of water vapour in the air.

However, most people don't keep their houses at 30°F! You heat up the air in your house to room temperature.

So if a New York City resident heat up air that has a specific humidity of 21.42gr/lb to 70°F, they end up with a relative humidity of 19.57% inside their house. This feels very dry! In fact, it's dryer than the Sahara Desert (approximately 25% relative humidity on average).

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To give another data point, this exact model--the Honeywell HCM-350--was reviewed by Consumer Reports [1] who rated it the 4th best model of 13 models in their large-room category for humidifiers. (The top three were Boneco 7135, Crane Germ Defense EE-8065, and Honeywell HWM-340.) This is what they said about the Honeywell HCM-350: "With Excellent ratings for moisture output, convenience, and energy efficiency, this…

I find it inexplicable that a humidifier that doesn't automatically shut off when the tank is empty can get a perfect score in the "convenience" category.

For this type of humidifier you actually want the fan to run after the tank is empty so that the wick dries out. Otherwise you have a wet lump of filter just sitting in an enclosure growing mold and bacteria and gross.
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