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Seriously - the EU is bombarding us with damn cookie notice screens. I wish apple had been more in charge of the web than these EU folks.
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I would rather get advertisements about tech toys than get advertisements about debeers diamonds.
If HN were supported by non-tracking ads, do you think you would be more likely to see an add for a tech toy or a diamond here?
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Companies obsess about these metrics because they don't want their ROI to be less than their competitors', because that would put them at a competitive disadvantage. It's not in doubt that individual-targeted advertising is more effective than than the alternatives; by eliminating user tracking you would be decreasing ROI across the board, but that's fine because, again, all that you're fighting for is a higher ROI t…
This model is based on the assumption that ads are for things the consumers already know about. This is not correct. Example: I type “housing insurance” into Google and the “organic” results are dominated by the mega insurance companies. Without targeted advertising, the ads are also dominated by mega insurance companies because they have the biggest advertising budgets. With targeted advertising, I can see an ad fro…
When you are looking for housing insurance and Facebook shows you divorce attorneys, because they know you’re gonna need one pretty soon, that is a spend that would be affected.
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It actually is. A while ago, someone (i think fb) produced an article that showed that to avoid the issue, they find it is best to show user their own similar screen, and only if the user clicks "yes", show the OS screen (cause for that one you only get one chance). I suspect you're seeing the apps' first "app-made" screen and not the OS one. Look carefully. If so, click yes there, and NO on the OS screen.
No doubt FB is preparing to A/B test dozens of variants for maximum "conversion" :) The dialog I am constantly seeing is this one, which seems to come from the OS: https://i.imgur.com/7JGotq3.png Now that iOS allows you to share only some photos with apps (which is great) I see this before practically every photo selection dialog in third-party apps. My choice here doesn't affect my ability to share a single image wi…
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> Overall advertising budgets are not dominated by the effectiveness of advertising, but by adversarial spending by their competitors. This is absolutely not the case. Google’s biggest ad clients achieve pretty incredible ROI (called ROAS) on each dollar they spend. And they track these obsessively—I supported a large travel client that had a small (but highly skilled) engineering team dedicated exclusively to their…
At least someone in this thread gets it. Ad tracking really is about attribution, personalized ads are secondary nice-to-have. This is how small businesses figure out their advertising budget. Where are our customers coming from, or more importantly, where are they not coming from, so we know where to spend or not spend our limited resources? But I’m not surprised this isn’t pointed out more often. The hardcore priva…
And that's better?
As a side point, I don't see why attribution tracking requires any form of cross-site tracking or fingerprinting. It seems like it would be pretty trivial to implement this without all the privacy issues (i.e. just direct the ad to domain.com/ad123 and track the user on-site from there).
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Is the discussion moot if users can be easily fingerprinted without IDFA? It makes life slightly more difficult for advertising partners and social media companies, but not impossible. It's just a small additional barrier to friction that buys Apple some good PR.
That’s against Apple’s guidelines, violations of which will get your app kicked off the only distribution channel on iOS. We’ll have to see how this shakes out in reality, but as a deterrent it’s pretty strong.
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That’s against Apple’s guidelines, violations of which will get your app kicked off the only distribution channel on iOS. We’ll have to see how this shakes out in reality, but as a deterrent it’s pretty strong.
There has been an article on here just a day ago where the "app privacy" labels turned out to be false, so clearly Apple doesn't actually police this very well.
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At least someone in this thread gets it. Ad tracking really is about attribution, personalized ads are secondary nice-to-have. This is how small businesses figure out their advertising budget. Where are our customers coming from, or more importantly, where are they not coming from, so we know where to spend or not spend our limited resources? But I’m not surprised this isn’t pointed out more often. The hardcore priva…
Because (all other concerns and objections aside) the intent doesn't matter. Apologies for the crude analogy, but if I install a camera in your bathroom and say, "okay, technically I could watch you poop, but the only reason I'm actually doing this is to figure out when you're out of toilet paper", that explanation won't leave you satisfied. Similarly, if someone is tracking me across the web and trying to link my id…
Also, please remember that this conversation is very specifically about Facebook's access to the Apple IDFA, not about general web tracking or other data vacuuming issues. The fact that these two separate issues get conflated is part of the problem.
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This is called review gating and isn't allowed: https://appradar.com/blog/ask-users-leave-review-in-app-stor...
Is it actually explicitly disallowed in Apple's guidelines? Their wording almost makes it indicate they want you to only ask for a rating when people are happy with the app: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/ratings-and-reviews/ Make the request when users are most likely to feel satisfaction with your app, such as when they’ve completed an action, level, or task.