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Re: Tony Hsieh has died

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Post by Retric »

Malp wrote: post #248
capableweb wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't get more HN and SV than commenting about AMZN stock price in a reply to a emotional personal story of a recent passing.

I don't think this kind of behaviour is reflective of HN as a whole- there are very many thoughtful people sharing their thoughts here

HN as a group does things that aren’t representative of most users.

So don’t take it the wrong way. A pedantic comment which is downvoted and flagged doesn’t represent you, but the fact someone said it is very much in the flow of HN’s community.

Re: Tony Hsieh has died

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Post by tinyhouse »

spoonalious wrote: post #62

Died from a house fire. Terrible way to go. Source: https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/tony-hsieh-key-figure...

House fire while he was with family without any details. I must say it doesn't sound good. I'm sure the police will investigate. Big loss.

Re: Tony Hsieh has died

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Post by tyingq »

astura wrote: post #256
tyingq wrote: post #209

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What about that article ties it to Hsieh? Other than being a recent house fire in Connecticut? It's certainly not the only one.

It is that fire - it was the only fire in New London on Nov. 18 with injuries. https://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-tony-hsieh-zappo... >DTP Companies spokesperson Megan Fazio said in an email that Hsieh was injured in a Nov. 18 fire in New London. >New London Fire Chief Thomas Curcio told The Courant there was only one fire with injuries that day — at a home at 500 Pequot Ave. (Curcio declined to release the…

Yep, a story released well after my comment ties it to that city.

Re: Tony Hsieh has died

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Post by qzw »

mindslight wrote: post #189
chrischattin wrote: post #171

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The reason firefighters are often the first on the scene of an accident or 911 call is because fire stations are spread throughout the community. They’re the closest first responders and can get there faster. Not because they’re bored and have nothing better to do.

They probably do have nothing better to do, and that's a good thing . Basic queuing theory says that a system needs excess capacity in order to be able to respond to peak demand - you can't just tell a second fire to wait for an hour while fighting the first one. If three engines respond to a fender bender and a more pressing call comes in, they will leave and go there. I had an immediate family member in the hospita…

Another recent example was when the pandemic team of the National Security Council was disbanded, and the reason given was that the president doesn’t like to have people “just sitting around.”

Re: Tony Hsieh has died

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Post by sebmellen »

breck wrote: post #250
sebmellen wrote: post #80

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With anything this public, such questions will inevitably arise. It was not my intention to be ghoulish or inconsiderate in asking the question. A family member of mine died in a house fire as well, and her death prompted the development of new insulation safety standards in Germany (this being a number of decades ago). Knowing what led to this fire is of interest to me. I've edited my grandparent comment to remove t…

Though I don't think I ever met him personally, I like many here was very moved by his ideas and his ethics and his works and am really saddened to hear this news. Like you I also have questions and would like to hear more. I always find it helpful in grief to just hear what happened. Was it a mechanical malfunction? Was it a lack of fire alarms? Was it arson or murder? Was it suicide? It's extremely sad, and only 1/…

Thanks for lending more context to my questions.

You're right — it is helpful to know what happened. It's tragic to hear of Tony's death, and it's even more disquieting to speculate about the causes. Arson/murder paints the event in a very different light from a mechanical malfunction or, god forbid, suicide. And, as you mentioned, fire deaths are exceedingly rare, so the whole matter is cloaked in mystery.

I'm pretty shocked to hear of Tony's passing, as I was also very moved by his ethos and writings. That he died in a fire is all the more shocking — a death from cancer or something similar would be easier to accept. Perhaps this is because cancer and serious illness feels almost inevitable, and this doesn't.

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Post by breck »

sebmellen wrote: post #265
breck wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Though I don't think I ever met him personally, I like many here was very moved by his ideas and his ethics and his works and am really saddened to hear this news. Like you I also have questions and would like to hear more. I always find it helpful in grief to just hear what happened. Was it a mechanical malfunction? Was it a lack of fire alarms? Was it arson or murder? Was it suicide? It's extremely sad, and only 1/…

Thanks for lending more context to my questions. You're right — it is helpful to know what happened. It's tragic to hear of Tony's death, and it's even more disquieting to speculate about the causes. Arson/murder paints the event in a very different light from a mechanical malfunction or, god forbid, suicide. And, as you mentioned, fire deaths are exceedingly rare, so the whole matter is cloaked in mystery. I'm prett…

The WSJ article has a lot more details: https://www.wsj.com/articles/former-zappos-ceo-tony-hsieh-di...

Very sad. Feel really sorry for his family and friends. Sounds like he was a really incredible individual.

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Post by gnicholas »

xwdv wrote: post #198
wyldfire wrote: post #195

Seems short on details, so I was curious. These articles [1,2,3] may be referring to the fire in question. And this [4] seems to be the property. [1] https://www.theday.com/article/20201118/NWS04/201119437 [2] https://www.fox61.com/article/news/local/new-london-house-fi... [3] https://www.wfsb.com/news/crews-rescue-person-from-burning-n... [4] https://www.compass.com/listing/500-pequot-avenue-new-london...

I've never been in a raging fire, but the property seems to be very open and spacious with no obvious choke points, how does one end up so trapped, and without realizing a fire is breaking out? My guess is he passed out from the smoke inhalation first while asleep and was burned.

He apparently arrived at the hospital at 3 AM, [1] so there's a good chance he was asleep when the fire started.

> after arriving at a hospital in New London, Connecticut, at 3 a.m. on Nov. 18.

1: https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/former-zappos-ceo-dow...

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Post by astura »

xwdv wrote: post #198
wyldfire wrote: post #195

Seems short on details, so I was curious. These articles [1,2,3] may be referring to the fire in question. And this [4] seems to be the property. [1] https://www.theday.com/article/20201118/NWS04/201119437 [2] https://www.fox61.com/article/news/local/new-london-house-fi... [3] https://www.wfsb.com/news/crews-rescue-person-from-burning-n... [4] https://www.compass.com/listing/500-pequot-avenue-new-london...

I've never been in a raging fire, but the property seems to be very open and spacious with no obvious choke points, how does one end up so trapped, and without realizing a fire is breaking out? My guess is he passed out from the smoke inhalation first while asleep and was burned.

Flashover happens amazingly fast.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=k-3UCGGizgc

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