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WhiteHat Jr’s founder files $2.6M defamation suit against critic

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Post by srbsa »

The issue could be a matter of outrage, though, here in India the FOMO by parents (and students) is rather structural - been on since forever whether it is likes of Aptech/NIIT since late 90s.

Here are some pointers: High-school science grds that seek STEM undergrad education in India is over 5-million annually. Commerce & Humanities is looked down upon as barely has any value in terms career prospects (Some top high-schools don't even offer Humanities). For STEM subjects, over 5-million aspirants compete for less than 100K 'meaningful' seats - cuthroat yet?

FOMO in the failed education system is structural. Else to blame companies from byjus, to unacademy, to upgrad, all of which claim to deliver on "Career Changing Education" at high-markups, is lame!

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Post by professorlogicx »

WebDanube wrote: post #255
helmholtz wrote: post #102

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I'm an Indian abroad. Do it. Come here to Europe. The baseline level of self-awareness in people here is off the scale when you compare it to the typical Indian. People actually queue, instead of creating a melee at every counter. You're never worrying about people cutting you in lines. Cars stop at zebra crossings to let pedestrians cross. No one honks! They nod and smile "bonjour!" as they cross you on the street.…

Your comment was soul-soothing. As a 24-yr-old looking to emigrate within the next year or so, I couldn't agree more with your take. I feel India as a country (I know I'm homogenizing India; but I feel exceptions are rare, if any) has decayed to a point where there's pretty much no hope left for folks with progressive views looking to lead a life (especially one with intellectual pursuits) on their own terms instead…

What options can you take for immigration? I am curious as well as I am an Undergrad aged 20 who wants to live in different countries (especially EU and Canada). I was thinking of taking a masters as I can then make connections. Are there any other ways which can be taken?

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Post by tzs »

bigbubba wrote: post #199
tokai wrote: post #193

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The spade phrase is from ancient greece with 500 years of use in the english language. Don't know how it could be racist. The spade is question is a digging tool.

It could be mistaken for a racist expression by somebody who knows 'spade' as a racial slur for black people.

Similar to "chink in one's armor. A "chink" means "a narrow opening or crack", and a chink in one's armor means a weak point that makes you vulnerable to attack.

But "chink" is also an offensive term for a Chinese person, so "chink in one's armor" can be misunderstood, especially if what you are talking about actually involves a Chinese person. ESPN got in trouble a couple of times with it, even though they had used it thousands of times before without incident, because of a couple articles where the weakness they were describing on some team was a player who was Chinese.

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Post by rainingcatndogs »

jiggytom wrote: post #240
renewiltord wrote: post #175

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They just DMCA'd them. Lbry then changed the listing. You can go get everything from the blockchain if you put in the work. They just made it so you have to put in the work. This is usually the case with most of these censorship resistant things. They have to comply with the law so they can never live up to the dream.

That is correct, we got a valid looking DMCA that was later disputed by the channel owner. It was unblocked. Then today, he deleted the channel and I haven't heard from him otherwise, so I'm not sure what's up.

When was the channel unblocked? It is disheartening to know that a company was able to silence legitimate criticism on all major platforms and even on places like LBRY.

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Post by hn_99 »

pc86 wrote: post #209
helmholtz wrote: post #203

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Hahaha guilty as charged, and now I'm outside the HN editing limits. That's what happens when you try to type at the speed of thought. Serves me right, I guess.

I wouldn't get too concerned over throw-away accounts getting their knickers in a twist over a throw-away line in an otherwise apt comment.

This isn't a throwaway. I've been lurking HN for a while and never felt the need to comment before now. In retrospect that was a bit silly since OP has been pretty nice in all of their follow up comments. I still feel that while their criticisms are generally valid, they're a bit harsh.

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Post by WebDanube »

professorlogicx wrote: post #262
WebDanube wrote: post #255

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Your comment was soul-soothing. As a 24-yr-old looking to emigrate within the next year or so, I couldn't agree more with your take. I feel India as a country (I know I'm homogenizing India; but I feel exceptions are rare, if any) has decayed to a point where there's pretty much no hope left for folks with progressive views looking to lead a life (especially one with intellectual pursuits) on their own terms instead…

What options can you take for immigration? I am curious as well as I am an Undergrad aged 20 who wants to live in different countries (especially EU and Canada). I was thinking of taking a masters as I can then make connections. Are there any other ways which can be taken?

I can comment wrt the United States, as I already have members of my family there who've established themselves there for a few decades now.

The most common route would be going there for Master's degree (MS or equivalent) and then later finding a job either before or immediately after graduating from your course.

But you can also try other avenues like directly trying for a job via work visa, get someone to sponsor you (via an immigration petition -- but you need a present a valid argument for this and also find someone you trust who've established themselves there), or find a partner there with whom you're willing to cohabitate.

I'd highly recommend trying for EU/Canada (as you mentioned yourself), Aus/NZ over the United States of America-- at least for the next few years until something resembling an immigration reform takes place -- unless if you have folks in the States who're willing to sponsor you or get you a good, well-paying H1B job.

Good luck!

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Post by ankit219 »

boruto wrote: post #221
ankit219 wrote: post #61

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It's gonna get worse. Criminal Defamation laws in India put the onus on the defendant (Poonia, dont know legal terms) to show that he did not defame the company, or to show that he did it in interest of public good. They are skewed towards the company or the person alleging defamation. In other countries its the person alleging that needs to prove that he was defamed unfairly.

> Criminal Defamation laws in India put the onus on the defendant. Afaik this is incorrect. Could you please give a source. I just read a tweet by anirudhha malapani too that the onus is on whitehat.

There are various cases where the onus is on book writer or publisher to show the intent was good faith and not defamation. Look at the case of The Wire v Arnab Goswami a couple of years back, or even the current Priya Ramani case. This is not a well known fact and thats what makes life difficult in India.

> Going through the provisions of Section 499, it is clear that the accused has to not only prove that his/her statement is true but also made in the ‘public interest’, a phrase that is as vague as they come.

[1] https://www.thebetterindia.com/162334/criminal-defamation-in...

One mistake I made when i wrote this was that I wasnt aware if this is a Civil Defamation or a Criminal defamation. Frankly, I dont know the difference even now, just that these two exist as a sheer legacy of British laws and govt never moved to correct them.

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Post by segfaultbuserr »

kkarakk wrote: post #233
segfaultbuserr wrote: post #80

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The original post reads "he didn't study at WhiteHatJr". I think it was a satire, as I found it was a pretty funny remark. I believe you are pointing your finger at the wrong person.

actually i was just continuing the satire but it didn't come across as such :) que sera sera

Poe's Law in action [0]. Could be helpful if you used the "/s" sarcasm mark.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

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