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It's 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better (2016)

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Re: It's 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better (2016)

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post #145

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I have plenty of problems with this article, but I think it's a bit odd to consider dependency upon the institutions of - grocery stores - transportation - electricity - various repair-people such as electricians and plumbers - an employer - a well-regulated economy as "being a independent outdoor cat," but then suddenly once you're renting your clothes instead of buying them that's a bridge too far, and you're "capt…

It's not about that, it's about the power structure. Imagine a hypothetical small town with several owner-operated grocery store, a local power station, owner-operated service companies, etc. Each of the involved actors is knowledgeable about what they are doing. They are hard to replace, their experience is important, so they have more bargaining power and can charge higher for their work. The wealth is more or less…

> The "well-regulated economy" usually implies raising the taxes for top earners

A well regulated economy usually implies that people can count on stable laws, enforceable contracts, and markets that aren't distorted by the abuse of power.

Taxation usually implies people "paying their fair share" to keep the government working, although the folks to the right often note that for the folks on the left, this usually does seem to mean always wanting to raise the taxes for top earners (and vice versa).

Re: It's 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better (2016)

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"I know that, somewhere, everything I do, think and dream of is recorded. I just hope that nobody will use it against me." -- This gave me a feeling that I am unable to put into words.

Humanity does not yet have the wisdom to handle having that much power over everyone. We may never.

After reading these lines in Sapiens, I don't think that day will be that far away. "Sapiens by contrast is more like a banana republic dictator. Having so recently been one of the underdogs of the savannah, we are full of fears and anxieties over our position, which makes us doubly cruel and dangerous."

Re: It's 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better (2016)

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Of course it's a scam. "You will own nothing and be happy". That is BS of the highest order. There will always be someone who owns and controls everything. It's just not going to be you. You will own nothing, you will be worthless. You won't even be able to have a girlfriend/boyfriend or friends for that matter; real human relationships are reserved for the elites. You will get as many VR friends as you want though.…

I can't believe that people are downvoting this without making any arguments to refute it; they're thinking emotionally, looking at things through rose-colored lenses. Sometimes it seems like everyone is on drugs. People's brains are turning into swiss cheese. Trying to censor information is just not going to work. Controlling the media is not going to help beyond a certain point. People know what's going on and they…

Really like the way you think @cryptica

Re: It's 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better (2016)

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post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have plenty of problems with this article, but I think it's a bit odd to consider dependency upon the institutions of - grocery stores - transportation - electricity - various repair-people such as electricians and plumbers - an employer - a well-regulated economy as "being a independent outdoor cat," but then suddenly once you're renting your clothes instead of buying them that's a bridge too far, and you're "capt…

It's not about that, it's about the power structure. Imagine a hypothetical small town with several owner-operated grocery store, a local power station, owner-operated service companies, etc. Each of the involved actors is knowledgeable about what they are doing. They are hard to replace, their experience is important, so they have more bargaining power and can charge higher for their work. The wealth is more or less…

Not surprised somebody named John Moscow would understand all this.

Re: It's 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better (2016)

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post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have plenty of problems with this article, but I think it's a bit odd to consider dependency upon the institutions of - grocery stores - transportation - electricity - various repair-people such as electricians and plumbers - an employer - a well-regulated economy as "being a independent outdoor cat," but then suddenly once you're renting your clothes instead of buying them that's a bridge too far, and you're "capt…

It's not about that, it's about the power structure. Imagine a hypothetical small town with several owner-operated grocery store, a local power station, owner-operated service companies, etc. Each of the involved actors is knowledgeable about what they are doing. They are hard to replace, their experience is important, so they have more bargaining power and can charge higher for their work. The wealth is more or less…

Thank you, great explanation - I didn't think of it this way either.

Re: It's 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better (2016)

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post #218

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I seriously don't see it. I click around on the WEF site and it's just a bunch of hot air like you'd expect. These aren't lizard men, they're inconsequential bureaucrats.

You're not going to like my conspiracy theory: The "lizard people" are counting on you being apathetic, ignorant, and/or in denial. Even better if you criticize people who bring the "lizard people plans" to light as tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists, shifting credibility away from the critics and back to the "lizard people." Why would you do that? Bc you likely have a mortgage, kids, and a 401k. Therefore, you have a…

Yes that's what I don't understand about how people can just dismiss this - people don't attain great money and power to just do nothing with it - they end up wanting to use it over others, however aware or not they are of that
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