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Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Post by folmar »

Spare_account wrote: post #84
adrr wrote: post #75

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It’s even worse on touch devices. You have to touch the bottom screen to get the controls to appear. Accident touch twice in the wrong location and you can hang up.

I've often thought that on a touch screen device the OS should ignore touches on buttons/popups that have been on screen for less time than a human could reasonably have observed it and chosen to interact with it. If I touch the screen 0.05 seconds after a button appears, I was probably _not_ aiming for that button. In fact, now I think about it, this has happened many times over the years with traditional mouse driv…

As a "power user" I totally disdain the idea. I know what will appear in programs I use often and touch without waiting for the button to be drawn.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Post by folmar »

Spoom wrote: post #129
jcims wrote: post #81

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I imagine most know this by now but the space bar works as a push to talk button in Zoom (as long as it has focus of course). I really think there is a market for a physical video conference controller. If I could get a hefty slab of something with quality buttons to enable/disable video, push to talk/mute/unmute, bring to foreground, ‘on air’ light and end call, I’d easily pay $100 for it.

These exist, but they're quite a bit more expensive. They're really nice to have though, and one reason I sometimes miss the office. https://meetingdevices.withgoogle.com/ I bet there is similar hardware the works with Zoom. Googler, opinions my own.

I bet there is a standard protocol H.323 and a lot of hardware available... but then the garden walls would be breached.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Post by hongalex »

supernova87a wrote: post #247

I have a different issue with Google Meet. I have observed in the last couple months that whenever I create a Google Calendar invite with others, Google has started inserting a Google Meet conference as the location to meet. It was one thing to ask/offer this as an option if you'd like to use it, but now Google is positioning it as if you had chosen that. So if you left it empty, because you usually use some other un…

I noticed this too, but I actually got a tooltip popup that notes this is something that can be disabled in the calendar settings. The specific checkbox is "Automatically add Google Meet video conferences to events I create"

Disclaimer: I work at Google but not on these products.

Edit: it seems the tooltip only appears the first time you try to add Meet. After that it doesn't appear and you have to go into settings.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Post by nojvek »

Ntrails wrote: post #253
wffurr wrote: post #242

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> 1/ Your internet connection, especially upload bandwidth and latency matter a lot. I moved to a new house, and the quality of my video calls dropped dramatically. Constant freezing and dropouts. It was extremely frustrating to try to participate in a meeting. I could receive fine, but anytime I spoke out, I would drop out within minutes. Speed tests showed plenty of bandwidth, but my modem statistics showed high up…

Today I took a flawless webex meeting on a laptop tethered to my mobile phone, that same tether also allowed me to work without issue over rdp or whatever. My mobile internet is really fucking good, and often outperforms my sodding wired connection

I've had great experience with T-Mobile 4G. It outperforms my wired Frontier connection in terms of both up/down speeds. Although it has been getting Spotty lately. During peak hours the speed drops significantly.

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Post by ss3000 »

boulos wrote: post #228
tsycho wrote: post #220

Having used both Zoom and Meet extensively now for the past 6 months, my experience is: 1/ Your internet connection, especially upload bandwidth and latency matter a lot. 2/ Zoom's desktop app performs very well, but its web version is atrocious. Not just because of the dark patterns they use to force you to install the desktop app, but also its performance is terrible compared to its desktop version, as well as wors…

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud (but not Meet). For the last item, personal accounts (only?) default to send and receive video at lower resolution (360p). So if you meant that the quality is lower, you can set it on both sides to 720p. Edit: I don’t think Meet remembers those settings though, so you have to do it every time (and show your family members how to do so).

This is maddening...

Why does Google, with all the resources at its disposal, choose to cheap out like this when competitors in the video chat space (from tiny startups to gigantic corporation of similar size) have offered near native resolution video chat for ages?

Are they even _trying_ to compete?

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Post by qmarchi »

dhimes wrote: post #197
gundmc wrote: post #56

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In my experience, Meet is far far better than the Zoom webclient. And I refuse to install the zoom desktop application.

I have a pretty modest machine and zoom wins hands-down. It also "just works." I've had trouble getting non-technical people on hangouts/meet/whatever they call it today. Zoom "just works," and they've been responsive to peoples' concerns. Zoom is the verb now.

I've had the complete opposite experience, getting someone to use Meet is easy, send them a link and they open it in their browser. Done.

Zoom it's "Download this, install it, wait for it to come up...", and forget trying to get someone to use the web version.

Disclosure: I work in Google Cloud, but not in Meet.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Post by folmar »

three_seagrass wrote: post #246
neilpanchal wrote: post #32

Aside: Imagine you’re driving down the road and you need to make a right turn. Well, for some reason the steering wheel is stowed away and disappeared! You need to hover your hand around the center console in a specific area to be able to expose it. Out comes the steering wheel and now you can make a right turn. Google UX/UI team: Please fucking make the mute/unmute button visible at all times.

There are so many unnecessary clicks in the Google Meet U.I. When I leave a meeting, can you please stop asking me for feedback every time and just take me back to the main meet screen? It would be so easy just to put that small dialogue box on the main meet screen rather than prompt me to click the button to return.

I guess not a lot of people use the main screen at all. It only hass a minicalendar and you probably have another calendar application anyway.

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Post by sangnoir »

canada_dry wrote: post #238
robotmay wrote: post #123

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Ah ha, someone with the same experience as me. My degree is in Graphic Design, but I immediately ditched the idea of using it after university and took up programming instead because everyone has a fucking opinion when it comes to design.

> took up programming instead because everyone has a fucking opinion when it comes to design I'm guessing code peer-reviews aren't a think at your org.

Imagine a pointy-haired boss, or some rando in Marketing doing your code review (shudders) "That value is a trademarked name of our product - I mean variable - please capitalize it and add a (TM)" I'm glad I don't get noob oversight the way designers do.

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Post by ilikeerp »

andeee23 wrote: post #34
ilikeerp wrote: post #30

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I don't count web dev as programming. HN is full of JS people that think a text editor and a browser with fuck all data, load, or volume issues is 'programming'. Fucking casuals.

Do you consider an app like Microsoft Teams not a "real" program then?

Much you like yourself, your questions is retarded. Teams is not web dev you moron.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Post by rplnt »

rossjudson wrote: post #241
rplnt wrote: post #239

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Basically what other comments suggested. The popup menu that shows every time I move with the cursor and covers part of the screen. Can't be hidden on demand. Shows status I can't see without opening it (and covering part of the screen). Can't change my mute status without opening it (and covering part of the screen) or using a very obscure shortcut.

I am confused. The microphone button is on the bottom bar, is clearly available at all times, and can always be clicked-on. You are using Google Meet within a browser?

The pop-up bottom bar. Yes, in a browser.
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