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Re: I built a lay-down desk

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Post by monksy »

polote wrote: post #235
monksy wrote: post #136

Am I the only one that saw this and got very concerned about the structure? That's a lot of weight and hinges in this system. It looks like a guillotine for the stomach.

There is a space inside the desk board to let the body go, then both sides of the desk are resting on the chair so there is no force applied on my stomach. And contrary to what we can imagine, there is not much weight, the right part of the desk, which could fall on me if something breaks is about 40kg. Thats the advantage of wood, it is very light

From what I'm seeing is:

1. There is a failure near the top of the stand. The whole thing comes collapsing down verticaly

2. There is a failure in the swing-> pressure is pushed towards the user. I just saw that the table connects to the chair.. looks like that would mitigate some of the force

3. When pushing the desk out to get in, there could be a failure at the pivot point above..if you're sitting in there.. that's a post going to the head.

Posts are VERY heavy. They're even worse that high up and above you.

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Post by ghaff »

andreareina wrote: post #25
zoba wrote: post #5

A friend once said “There’s all these studies about how bad sitting is for you. Now there are even studies about how bad standing desks are for you. Nobody ever says anything bad about laying down so I just try to do that as much as possible.” I still laugh. Perhaps true in part though.

IME it's not sitting or standing or lying down that's injurious, it's not moving . My pain to a large extent went away when I stopped staying so still. Now I change my posture on the regular, from leaning against the backrest to sitting away from it to taking little breaks to pace around a bit. Similarly, I used to get eye strain from all the screen time. Until I moved to an office with a view and I found myself star…

I'm lucky enough to be able to move around my house a lot and I get up pretty frequently. I actually have a pretty well-equipped office with keyboard tray, dual monitors, and HM chair. But I actually work a fair bit in a nice sunny room with a fairly cheap but comfortable Ikea chair that leans back and a foot rest. I work in that with my laptop just on my lap if I don't need a bunch of screen real estate.

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Post by luckylion »

jam wrote: post #239
luckylion wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use a very similar setup, and I use a mouse because I've never found a keyboard I liked that includes a touch pad. I've simply taken another monitor arm + a laptop holder attachment. Flip it and put a firm pad on top and you have a mouse pad holder that you can position in 3d exactly where you want it.

Agreed - only Apple standalone trackpads are really worth using as far as I can tell. If you happen to like the ThinkPad TrackPoint mouse nub, these keyboards work great for that type of setup: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/keyboa...

I would love to use something with a TrackPoint, but I have an irrational fear of committing to a non-fullsize keyboards. It's regretful that they don't build different keyboard variants or license the tech out, but I assume the market isn't large enough to warrant more offers.

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Post by JoshTriplett »

jam wrote: post #239
luckylion wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use a very similar setup, and I use a mouse because I've never found a keyboard I liked that includes a touch pad. I've simply taken another monitor arm + a laptop holder attachment. Flip it and put a firm pad on top and you have a mouse pad holder that you can position in 3d exactly where you want it.

Agreed - only Apple standalone trackpads are really worth using as far as I can tell. If you happen to like the ThinkPad TrackPoint mouse nub, these keyboards work great for that type of setup: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/keyboa...

I use a setup with a previous generation of that keyboard. I really wish they'd go back to the version I have that has a built-in palm rest.

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Post by grenoire »

hinkley wrote: post #253

I stopped hanging out in /r/DIY before /r/DIWHY became a thing, because it was turning into a roast of people risking life, limb, and property by doing something structurally unsound. There's educating people on building standards, and then there's just bagging on people. In an attempt to be more of the former than the latter, if the string or especially that strut sheer off of their mounts, that whole contraption is…

Lord, thank you for this comment. The structure looks like a death trap and the physics of its construction make very little sense. Be careful everybody!

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Post by Polylactic_acid »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #159
jedberg wrote: post #151

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There is a company that is solving that! https://immersedvr.com Disclaimer: I'm an investor in Immersed, but I invested because I loved the product!

Thanks I think I've seen that, unfortunately I suffer from extreme simulation sickness, can't even play Minecraft and hence I'm exploring non-VR direct display glasses. But, those who have no issues with VR might indeed find immersedvr useful.

VR motion sickness comes pretty much entirely from games which require your body to move with a controller rather than actual movement. If you are just using it as a virtual monitor then its very unlikely you will feel sick.

The real problem is no VR headset has a resolution high enough to come even close to what a normal monitor would provide dpi wise.

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Post by Polylactic_acid »

jedberg wrote: post #170
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks I think I've seen that, unfortunately I suffer from extreme simulation sickness, can't even play Minecraft and hence I'm exploring non-VR direct display glasses. But, those who have no issues with VR might indeed find immersedvr useful.

FWIW I also get extreme motion sickness with VR. Except the Oculus (Edit: Oculus Quest). I don't know why, but that one doesn't bother me at all. I've literally used it for hours at a time with no problems.

Possibly the computer you were using was not able to keep up a consistent frame rate or your experience is with one of the oculus dev kits which were low spec.

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Post by dkersten »

asdff wrote: post #122
andreareina wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IME it's not sitting or standing or lying down that's injurious, it's not moving . My pain to a large extent went away when I stopped staying so still. Now I change my posture on the regular, from leaning against the backrest to sitting away from it to taking little breaks to pace around a bit. Similarly, I used to get eye strain from all the screen time. Until I moved to an office with a view and I found myself star…

I think it's pretty healthy to get up and go walk to a window to stare out of it for a spell. I've been trying to take short walks around my block throughout the day to prevent any soreness or posture issues, as well. I didn't realize it, but back before the pandemic I was walking probably 5 miles a day at least commuting and walking around work, plus a dozen or so flights of stairs.

I used to commute to a city from which I live about an hour by train away. I worked from home a lot, but would travel there a lot too and every day I did, I easily walked over 10km each day, since I walked to and from the train station on both sides and in the city I'd walk everywhere too if I was going anywhere for lunch or after work, so it added up very quickly. With covid, I haven't been since early this year and I definitely miss all the walking. I try to go for walks here, but when I went to work there, it was an unconscious thing that I just did without thinking, while here its a decision I have to consciously make, which makes it a lot harder.

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Post by JoshTriplett »

jam wrote: post #186

I've had a setup like this for years, but it's much simpler: monitor arm [1], ultrawide display [2], keyboard + trackpad lap tray [3], any couch. Been through many iterations and like this gear, but you can do it for cheap just as easily. Mount the arm to something (like a desk) and swing it over the couch to lay down. In my case, I can actually pivot it between the couch and the chair on the other side of the desk.…

Likewise. I use this pole: https://www.ergomart.com/192offset-monitor-floor-stand .

And this monitor: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/32ud99-w (specifically because it's the only USB-C monitor I found that's completely flicker-free, which RTINGS tests for).

Ergomart actually looked at the specs of my monitor and recommended the right arm and parts to properly balance the weight. I'll happily recommend them recommend them.

The monitor moves easily on three axes, and tilts; cords are cable-managed through the pole. I just sit down and plug in a single USB-C cable to get video, webcam, keyboard/mouse, and power.

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Post by 6510 »

I build it like this when I was 13 in (1987):

You get the largest screen you can afford (use it at a low resolution) Put it on the wall just under the ceiling.

Put a stack of books under the legs of the bed. This is an art in it self. If you gradually increase the angle eventually you slide down. Train the legs to "stand" like this and gradually increase the angle by tiny amounts. This way it magically qualifies as a zero effort leg exercise. (my legs got huge muscles from it)

Get thick curtains to make the room pitch dark. Switch off the lights, adjust the themes and dim the screen to the point you cant see anything on it anymore without getting used to the dark for 5-15 min. This will allow comfortable naps while coding.

As soon as a task feels complicated take a nap. It is hilarious to wake up and see absolutely nothing besides text on the screen.

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