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Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Soon we'll just have Microsoft, Epic, and a conglomeration of EA, Activision, and Ubisoft after Bobby Kotick forces them all to merge. Facebook will bungle up any chance they have of capturing the gaming market after writing a cryptic paragraph about their legal right to request blood samples from all Oculous users in the TOS. Valve will quietly exit software development altogether, and pivot to building custom vanit…

There are more: - paradox interactive - rockstar, which is strong from gta v online and rdr - cd projeckt red, which also get income from gog and hyped cyberpunk - valve won't exit software devs in short time, their investment in vr is big. I won't be surprised if they release vanity knives with lootbox though IMO Bethesda decided to sell to MS because their recent games cannot generate enough popularity. They can on…

> their recent games cannot generate enough popularity

I wouldn't be so sure. Sure, they are not GTA or CoD, but Prey, Dishonored or Doom have all sold rather good.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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I dunno about this. The current consensus of community is that Dota 2 is dying and valve couldn't be bothered doing anything about it. Just cashing in while they can. And Dota 2 is by far their biggest game.

CS:GO is actually their biggest game now, but it does look like Dota 2 is dying. From a business perspective, they don't have any reason to try and save it though. They've lost ~40% of their players over the past 4 years, but are making more money than ever. The in-game tutorials have been unfinished for years, their Dota+ subscription service is all but abandoned (but still bringing in millions of dollars a year), a…

CS:GO is also going to trend downward soon with the release of Valorant, which is basically the same game with a few superpowers attached. All my friends who played GO switched over, they're attracting a pro scene, I think it's only a matter of time tbh.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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I genuinely think this is an amazing acquisition. Bethesda/Zenimax has arguably the longest lineup of critically acclaimed franchises in the video game world. Additionally, almost every franchise still feels fresh and has pulling power, unlike ones like Halo and Assassins creed which have slowly lost their thunder. Additionally, Bethesda had no idea what they were doing with their 2 biggest properties - Fallout and E…

> Bethesda/Zenimax has arguably the longest lineup of critically acclaimed franchises in the video game world

Let me introduce you to a little company called Nintendo.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Soon we'll just have Microsoft, Epic, and a conglomeration of EA, Activision, and Ubisoft after Bobby Kotick forces them all to merge. Facebook will bungle up any chance they have of capturing the gaming market after writing a cryptic paragraph about their legal right to request blood samples from all Oculous users in the TOS. Valve will quietly exit software development altogether, and pivot to building custom vanit…

Sure, if you ate McDonald's every day you'd probably think that there are no good restaurants anymore. My top 4 games by playtime in the last few years were Rimworld, Oxygen Not Included, Dwarf Fortress and WoW Classic. Honorable mentions go to Spelunky and Stellaris. It's to everyone's great regret that a single one of these titles was purchased by one of the shitty publishers you mentioned, fortunately it's the one…

Don't forget Factorio -- aka if Software Development were a computer game with tech debt, copy/paste and literal bugs.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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For me, The Outer Worlds was right there with Witcher 3 as one of the best games this generation. It really does feel like Fallout, but perhaps somewhat less open world when you're actually on a planet b/c of map boundaries and enemies too dangerous for your level to keep you on track. The diverging story lines and open space travel (once you get the requisite navkey to be able to land) compensate for that somewhat.

While it IS a great game, it's REALLY short. I've been hoping for a surprise DLC to expand the content. (There are several other planets in the galaxy map you can't travel to. Hint, hint.) I hope the game did well enough to get a larger treatment in Outer Worlds 2.

Have you seen this one https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/the-outer-worlds-peril-on-... ?

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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There are more: - paradox interactive - rockstar, which is strong from gta v online and rdr - cd projeckt red, which also get income from gog and hyped cyberpunk - valve won't exit software devs in short time, their investment in vr is big. I won't be surprised if they release vanity knives with lootbox though IMO Bethesda decided to sell to MS because their recent games cannot generate enough popularity. They can on…

> IMO Bethesda decided to sell to MS because their recent games cannot generate enough popularity Truly mystifying why they'd want to create an MMO. It's as if they hadn't been following the news. The success of WoW is incredibly hard to repeat, and most studios who try fail, no matter how much money they throw at it. The MMO space has been, WoW aside, a money bonfire for one and a half decade at this point.

ESO has been pretty successful, 15 million players:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidjagneaux/2020/03/30/elder-...

I'd guess that the article has it wrong and they're mainly on the free tier and that's not the subscriber count though.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Microsoft bought Bungie in 2000. -(Halo was going to be for mac, and demoed by Steve Jobs who I guess made it look so great Bungie sold.) released a bunch of very successful games as xbox exclusives. 7 years later Bungie left microsoft as its own company again. (not sure how that happened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bungie

> 7 years later Bungie left microsoft as its own company again. (not sure how that happened.

My guess is Microsoft got to keep what it really wanted, the Halo brand.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Sure, if you ate McDonald's every day you'd probably think that there are no good restaurants anymore. My top 4 games by playtime in the last few years were Rimworld, Oxygen Not Included, Dwarf Fortress and WoW Classic. Honorable mentions go to Spelunky and Stellaris. It's to everyone's great regret that a single one of these titles was purchased by one of the shitty publishers you mentioned, fortunately it's the one…

You make a good point to bring up indie development (WoW excluded), but I think looking at the storefronts is also important. For these big conglomerates, the trendy thing is to have your own games store. Complete with exclusivity deals, privacy concerns, and plenty more. That's not to say that every game on a store has these issues. However, I think the lesson from mobile app stores is: don't discount the impact tha…

> Right now, Steam is still the leader

I wonder how they compare to Apple.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Soon we'll just have Microsoft, Epic, and a conglomeration of EA, Activision, and Ubisoft after Bobby Kotick forces them all to merge. Facebook will bungle up any chance they have of capturing the gaming market after writing a cryptic paragraph about their legal right to request blood samples from all Oculous users in the TOS. Valve will quietly exit software development altogether, and pivot to building custom vanit…

I was expecting you to finish with valve pivoting to hats.

Maybe I misunderstand what you mean but pretty sure the CS:GO knife market is way bigger than the TF2 hat market, so knives fit the joke better.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Soon we'll just have Microsoft, Epic, and a conglomeration of EA, Activision, and Ubisoft after Bobby Kotick forces them all to merge. Facebook will bungle up any chance they have of capturing the gaming market after writing a cryptic paragraph about their legal right to request blood samples from all Oculous users in the TOS. Valve will quietly exit software development altogether, and pivot to building custom vanit…

Sure, if you ate McDonald's every day you'd probably think that there are no good restaurants anymore. My top 4 games by playtime in the last few years were Rimworld, Oxygen Not Included, Dwarf Fortress and WoW Classic. Honorable mentions go to Spelunky and Stellaris. It's to everyone's great regret that a single one of these titles was purchased by one of the shitty publishers you mentioned, fortunately it's the one…

> Sure, if you ate McDonald's every day you'd probably think that there are no good restaurants anymore.

Brilliantly put.

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