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One hour of slow breathing changed my life

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Re: One hour of slow breathing changed my life

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Post by mcv »

kseistrup wrote: post #256
isoprophlex wrote: post #227

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Not going to lie: "Naturally we breath out of one nostril at a time" had me looking very confused! I even tried contorting my face to get one of my nostrils to close, haha

If you pay attention, one of the nostrils are likely to be more active (as measured in air flow) at a given time and the active nostril will switch side from time to time, perhaps something like every couple of hours.

I think that just depends on which nostril is the least clogged at that particular time.

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Post by irthomasthomas »

afterburner wrote: post #258
isbjorn16 wrote: post #73

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It's weird how much we take for granted without ever expecting it to be different for others. I thought you guys were just screwing with me re: having an alternating congested nostril. Like, I only experience that during severe nasal congestion, and it seems mostly to stick with one side or the other depending on which side I'm laying on. It never even occurred to me that people would experience something like that _…

I still don't get it. Do these people not blow their nose?

Just pay attention to it during the day. It alternates left to right with a short time in the middle when they are both open.

Re: One hour of slow breathing changed my life

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Post by kseistrup »

mcv wrote: post #261
kseistrup wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you pay attention, one of the nostrils are likely to be more active (as measured in air flow) at a given time and the active nostril will switch side from time to time, perhaps something like every couple of hours.

I think that just depends on which nostril is the least clogged at that particular time.

It mainly depends on which turbinates are more blood filled at a given time. See e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_cycle

Re: One hour of slow breathing changed my life

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Post by dredmorbius »

thiagocsf wrote: post #254
tzot wrote: post #104

> Hindus considered breath and spirit the same thing It's funny, because I just realised that πνεύμα(pneuma)/spirit in Greek has the same root as πνεύμων(pneumon)/lung: the verb πνέω(pnéo), which means I breathe. This is not Mr Portokalos talking from My Big Fat Greek Wedding, people: πνέω is traced to the older Indo-European stem pnew- , and the whole point of my comment is that there is a lot of heritage in languag…

In Portuguese the root “pneu” by itself means “tire” (as in a car tire). Fun stuff indeed!

A tyre (or tire is) a wheel dressing, the word being a truncation of attire. This can be any final dressing of a wheel.

An inflatable rubber pneumatic tire is a subclass of tire, and truncation or abbreviation to pnue is as good as any.

Locomotive wheels on trains have steel tyres.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/tire

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Post by cattlefarmer »

fsloth wrote: post #234
ekianjo wrote: post #214

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> Placebo can provide actual benefit to an individual. It depends what you refer to when you talk about a placebo. What people call the "placebo effect" is in practice "regression to the mean" in most cases, which is the fact that you would get better over time even if you did absolutely nothing. You will notice that placebo 'effect' works best in contexts where the illness has a psychological component (mental illne…

"how can you prevent people from claiming..." Do I understand correctly that you oppose people searching holistic remedies to their ills because they might accidentally get better, and a percentage of these might accidentally turn into snake oil salespeople?

I used to be of the opinion that it doesn't affect me directly so I don't care. But as more of us don't care, it becomes more common place, and then our (more gullible) relatives start taking in this information and will not listen to you because everyones knows it works! Whatever "it" is.

So no, I believe that we must actively fight false information. Not "we" in an individual sense, but "we" as a society, and that means regulation.

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Post by vidarh »

acituan wrote: post #248
waihtis wrote: post #235

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Breathing practice is the most simple thing in the world. Sit, breathe, relax - definitely doesnt need a license. Sounds like you’re confused of the purpose of it.

Just because it is simple in your experience doesn't mean that is universally true for everyone. Certainly not for anxiety disordered or PTSD suffering people for example. See my reply to comment below which cites studies when these sort of practices backfire in a non-trivial fashion. Like I said, it is either too trivial as sit, breathe and relax which won't do much good, or it is potent enough to do some good in wh…

Changing nothing can backfire too.

The problem with this line of thinking is to assume that inaction is not also a choice that affect you.

Re: One hour of slow breathing changed my life

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Post by richthegeek »

Buttons840 wrote: post #126
Rebelgecko wrote: post #106

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How do you handle the placebo effect?

Just don't handle it. The placebo effect tells us that some things that have no reason for working, work anyways.

That's not what it is at all. The placebo effect tells us that the thing we were doing did not cause the measured effect. If it's a placebo effect causing us to feel calmer, we could as easily hold a can of beans and be calmer if we believed it to cause us to become calmer.

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Post by lvturner »

nonbirithm wrote: post #244
gonehome wrote: post #210

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There's a lot of evidence that exercising is healthy and helps people improve their mental state so that analogy doesn't work. The point is if someone says they're getting a benefit from something that doesn't have a ton of evidence around it - my first instinct would be to be skeptical but curious. When someone takes that skepticism and implies that the "far bigger and more pressing problem" is that I can't determin…

It's weird though, because exercising physically can increase stress in the short term and can greatly elevate heart rate. Exercising is really unpleasant to me and I would really rather not do so. The only reason I choose to exercise anyway is because of the people online and the scientific evidence saying that exercise is better for you in the long term. I certainly don't feel like it in the moment, and in fact som…

I don't have a tactful way to say this - but perhaps you are exercising too hard?

It might be wiser to take a progressive approach - i.e. start with a five minute walk, the next day/week/month increase it to a ten minute walk or increase the pace.

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Post by tifadg1 »

acituan wrote: post #219
spaetzleesser wrote: post #133

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With a lot of these things I would highly recommend to just try it. If it works for you, good. If not, don't do it. It doesn't cost anything and you won't harm yourself. I started yoga before it became mainstream and with a lot of the practices I tried them for myself. For example I noticed that some pranayama practices work for me and others don't. Back then pretty much every "serious" scientist or doctor would have…

> With a lot of these things I would highly recommend to just try it. If it works for you, good. If not, don't do it. It doesn't cost anything and you won't harm yourself. I strongly disagree with this line of thinking. If something is potent enough to deliver benefit, it can also be potent enough to deliver harm. You can't have it both ways. Turns out breathing is rather psychoactive, and without proper educational…

You're over-reacting. Neither the benefits nor the harm is fast enough so that you don't have time to adjust. If you continue doing something despite it causing active harm, that's just on you (as in generally).

Re: One hour of slow breathing changed my life

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Post by tomcooks »

moltar wrote: post #247

This author seems to be on a PR circuit. Was on Rogan podcast recently. Heard other health podcasts mention the book and that they’ll have him on soon. I’m not saying it is wrong. Just to be aware.

Sorry aware of what? Isn't it how new material gets to people?
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