Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Perseverance Toward Life Goals Can Fend Off Depression, Anxiety, Panic Disorders

apa.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

261–266 of 266 posts

Re: Perseverance Toward Life Goals Can Fend Off Depression, Anxiety, Panic Disorders

#261

Post by BOOSTERHIDROGEN »

eric4smith wrote: post #114
mac01021 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was your basic strategy for training a 1-year-old or an 18-month at literacy? Put her in an environment that she can only navigate by reading signs? Flashcards and the conditional withholding of food?

I had her rewrite words directly from a book. But it was a highly disciplined environment to do it. Only 30 minutes at a time each day. Then i had her put simple words together - syllable by syllable. It was shocking how quickly she learned. But the key to it was DISCIPLINE. It was not something she could avoid or say that she did not feel like doing it today. I was cold and unemotional about it. Because its as basic…

any books for the training? thanks

Re: Perseverance Toward Life Goals Can Fend Off Depression, Anxiety, Panic Disorders

#262

Post by R0b0t1 »

anbende wrote: post #210
R0b0t1 wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given our recent experience with doctors killing people by putting them on ventilators when they could have put them on O2 I think blind faith in the APA is a bad idea, though I do generally see psychiatry and psychology as more professional than other fields of medicine.

Right, but this was a study conducted by the American Psychological Association, an organization that has literally nothing to do with the medical practices you spoke about.

The psychiatric equivalent is overprescribing antipsychotics because it makes people easier to manage. The general medical example was meant to be an impactful current example (though overprescription of antipsychotics is still happening).

Re: Perseverance Toward Life Goals Can Fend Off Depression, Anxiety, Panic Disorders

#263

Post by agumonkey »

podgaj wrote: post #152

I do not know how many people here have "Depression, Anxiety, Panic Disorders" but I am on disability for all three and it runs in my family on my mother's side. So what is this article saying? Me and my family just do not have perseverance? That we lack the "will" not to be depressed and anxious? That I just need to "Aspir[e] toward personal and career goals"? HA! No, it's not true. You see, they found we all have a…

I'm so torn on this.

I "only" had a bad situational depression but when I was at the bottom it was clear that nothing normal, pep talk etc was connected to my reality. And even long after that it was infuriating to be talked down by people with 'lazy' innuendos.

Yet ... I myself realize that in my brain there's a little 'will' part that you can focus on which kinda resonnated with the self part of depression and how you may (in time) give it a push to move away from the depressive state faster.

Sorry if it annoys you, I'm mostly trying to share my experience. Do the best you can in you context. Best wishes.

Re: Perseverance Toward Life Goals Can Fend Off Depression, Anxiety, Panic Disorders

#264

Post by agumonkey »

deerpig wrote: post #103
cc_ashby wrote: post #7

But what are you sacrificing in return for your “perseverance”? Very few people tend to look at the mind as a system, and also seem to ignore that depression, anxiety, panic disorders, etc. happen for a reason. The reason why modern humanity have increased risk of these symptoms is because they know, given their perhaps wrongly learned models of the world or otherwise, that even when they achieve their so-called life…

I disagree, perseverance is not the same as goal-seeking for goal seeking's sake, or at least, it doesn't have to be. Twenty years ago I set a thirty year goal, literally bet my life on it. It wasn't until two years ago that I was reasonably sure it had a chance of success. I had to, and continue to basically give up everything, no one funds very long term research, so I had to learn to live on less than $200 a month…

Also, better persevering in your own mania.. at least the wound is self inflicted. When you have to persevere for what society considers important, if that leads to nothing the grief is heavy.

Re: Perseverance Toward Life Goals Can Fend Off Depression, Anxiety, Panic Disorders

#266

Post by Allower »

podgaj wrote: post #152

I do not know how many people here have "Depression, Anxiety, Panic Disorders" but I am on disability for all three and it runs in my family on my mother's side. So what is this article saying? Me and my family just do not have perseverance? That we lack the "will" not to be depressed and anxious? That I just need to "Aspir[e] toward personal and career goals"? HA! No, it's not true. You see, they found we all have a…

No your family has likely made bad decision after bad decision for multiple generations now, eating poor quality food, cultivating bad habits that erode mental health. So yeah, you do lack perseverance, your family has lacked it for a long time more than likely. Righteous indignation is not evidence of veracity (as much I as might wish it was).
Post reply on HN