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On Trouser Pockets

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Re: On Trouser Pockets

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post #164

I hadn't even really thought about it, but I've had pockets like this for a few years in pants from Patagonia and Black Diamond. They are indeed quite nice, exactly as the author describes. Best for a phone or slender wallet.

Same here. A pair of Macpac chinos I bought several years ago has this pocket and manages to not look too outdoorsy.

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The dismissiveness in this thread is unreal. From the comments you'd think the article only had one sentence insulting the Sanctity of Cargo Pants. If you happily wear baggy jeans or cargo pants, these are not for you and you don't have the problem they solve. It's an elegant solution to wear slim fitted pants without awful hip pocket bulges. Cargo pants are not the solution here, as they are huge and baggy and the p…

Interestingly I have a pair of pants (these: https://www.duluthtrading.com/mens-duluthflex-dry-on-the-fly... , see pocket detail here: https://www.duluthtrading.com/dw/image/v2/BBNM_PRD/on/demand... ) They implement this pocket strategy and work well for me. The author would likely be interested to know that this topic was covered in detail as an engineering exercise in NASA flight suits. More functional pockets for…

I can't tell from that detailed picture but can you reach the bottom of the pocket without leaning over? Because both the diagram and the picture of the pants in the current submission suggests that without leaning over you could maybe grab your phone with the tip of your fingers. Could you for example use the pockets to warm up your hands?

Also the lower the pocket is, the higher the chance stuff will jiggle around if you run or simply walk faster, because it has more room to do it down the leg and the range of motion is wider. Is this the case with the phone in one of these pockets?

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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My Dickies work jeans have a pocket like the one described in the article, but at the back of the right leg, not the side. I'm pretty sure this is because if you're wearing a tool belt or safety harness none of the traditional pockets are accessible.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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There's a subculture around Everyday Carry (EDC) which has a whole niche market for products like this. This would be an excellent product for that market.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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post #152

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For women the problem is worse since we are too curvy to use the exact location of pockets even when clothes are baggy. I find the solution interesting even for women. I solved the same problem by putting the pockets horizontally at the waist. I will try moving the pocket down to the upper leg.

I suggest, as I stated in my other post, looking at the LuLuLemon pockets - specifically, having the pocket be a webbing/spandex material which cinches the contents of the pocket to the body such that it doesnt flop about and also secures the contents into the pocket. I like the horizontal, but maybe a 15 degree angle would be best, however, do the horiz pockets get in the way when you sit?

The pockets don't get in the way when I sit because the pocket is just below the waist.

I started with the Silhouette 3 piece yoga pattern (which has a side panel) and made the pocket horizontal. It seems to me you can take an off-the-rack pair of pants and make the same modification.

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Actual phones are going out of fashion quite quickly. People want communication devices with several usage options, that once in a full moon work as phones too. And yes, people want entertainment too. Apple is just submitting to their customers desires.

It feels to me that customers submit to Apple's desires...

Maybe so, but non-Apple phones are designed against those same goals, and their market is pretty competitive.

If those came from Apple instead of consumers, they wouldn't be universal.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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what I hate are those tiny change nooks sewn into the right trouser pocket so it's like a pocket within a pocket.

In theory they're fine except I always put my keys into my right pocket because I'm right handed. My keys will fall into these mini pockets and get stuck.

These mini pockets should really be on the left side.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For women the problem is worse since we are too curvy to use the exact location of pockets even when clothes are baggy. I find the solution interesting even for women. I solved the same problem by putting the pockets horizontally at the waist. I will try moving the pocket down to the upper leg.

Further, we are all curvy in different ways. I couldn't wear either of the trousers he made, without the fabric bunching. Other women might fit one or the other, or none. I like my pockets in the back, for example, but I need zips so things don't fall out and maybe a way of securing them so things don't get stolen and well it's all too hard so I just carry a purse unless it's running pants and I just need to slot my…

> we are all curvy in different ways

How hard can it be to 3d scan a person and output a custom fitted garment? Print? Robo sew? Anyway it seems like a bounded engineering problem.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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post #219

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No, saying cargo pants are ugly because they look like what a laborer (or a "pretend-laborer" to use the article's wording) wears is classist.

And? Is it not true? Manual labor is not a profession where you're dressing to impress. Their clothes are functional, but are quite ugly. I did manual labor for a while, and guess what: my clothes sucked too. No laborer is going to get offended if you tell them that their clothes are not good looking. Stop getting offended in the name of a random group of people.

Not to detract from your point, but there are plenty of fashion-conscious people that do manual labor for a living too. They just look down on 'fancy' clothes. "How is that guy going to get any work done in those clothes?" And yeah, they will get offended if you tell them their Carhartt / Duluth Trading Company apparel that can potentially cost more than serviceable office wear doesn't look good.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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post #209

Nobody would miss the pockets on top for a place to hang your hands? I depend on this to take some load off my spine sometimes. And I feel like pocketing away my hands is like a “mute button” on a certain amount of proprioception when I need to really do some thinking or relaxing. Love everything else about this btw.

That's a interesting and real use case for upper pockets. I can attest doing so the same for both ergonomic and psychological reasons. Plus, there is one reason pockets in lower part of the torso is not very common, it is because the larger leg movements range make the weight in the lower pocket a painful experience in walking and running. The OP design therefore is not very practical IMHO.
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