IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration • Hacker News Board

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

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Post by derefr » Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 12:22 AM UTC

SquareWheel wrote: post #133

af65t34f75693 wrote: post #95

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The only thing I don't like about it is how every line in this tweet ends in a 'fitting' emoji I'm not even that old (born in the 80s), but is that the style adults use now?

I found myself stopping after each line trying to understand the inscrutable images. A tie I get, as it's related to business. The nervous laughing face and recycling symbol are beyond me.

The third line’s emoji is conciliatory false embarrassment masking amusement, e.g. the emotion on your face after you intentionally lose in arm-wrestling to a five-year-old.

That’s a pretty standard meaning for that emoji, despite the subtle shade of its meaning, because it’s quite common on Twitter or Instagram that you want to humble-brag about “what they missed out on”, but you also want to make it explicit that you realize that you’re doing so (a bit like sarcasm-flagging.)

The fourth line’s emoji is presumably a substitute for a “refresh” (or more precisely, “recompute”) icon, since we don’t actually have one of those.

...which is rather uncommon usage; but the proper emotion (“knowing but non-judgemental stare, as if a parent waiting for their child to figure out that they’re supposed to close the fridge after taking something from it”) isn’t a standard Unicode emoji... yet. (But nearly every Discord group I’m in has a custom one for that purpose!)

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

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Post by 0xFFC » Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 1:25 AM UTC

john_minsk wrote: post #44

blickentwapft wrote: post #9

Meh. It’s probably just 2 years mistyped. Shouldn’t be on front page HN.

This. To all the people who call this job post "silly", imagine how silly it is if a simple mistake of missing "-" like in "1-2 years" is overblown out of proportions and half the internet is discussing it. I've stumbled upon this "news" a few times during past 2 days. What a waste...

You clearly has not been on job hunt :)

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

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Post by com2kid » Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 5:51 PM UTC

0xfffafaCrash wrote: post #246

EliRivers wrote: post #207

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Full-stack always has been a buzzword. It means everything and nothing. I've seen full-stack mean "assembly code to screen pixel", I've seen it mean LAMP, I've seen it mean three or four specific technologies that the candidate is presumably meant to guess are the technologies being used.

Almost no full stack developers are expected to work with assembly (unless explicitly stated) so that seems more than a little hyperbolic. Full-stack in its common usage doesn't mean "everything and nothing." People might disagree about where the exact boundaries are, but there are a lot of people who definitely don't count by any definition so it does convey information. Those who only work with HTML & CSS & client-…

> Almost no full stack developers are expected to work with assembly (unless explicitly stated) so that seems more than a little hyperbolic.

In the embedded world, a full stack developer would be someone who can read electrical schematics, write drivers, write libraries, and by the time you've done all of that the UI part is, comparatively, trivial.

Been there, done it, would 100% recommend it. You feel much closer to your code than when 10 abstraction layers are in the way.

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

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Post by SquareWheel » Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 6:04 PM UTC

derefr wrote: post #261

SquareWheel wrote: post #133

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I found myself stopping after each line trying to understand the inscrutable images. A tie I get, as it's related to business. The nervous laughing face and recycling symbol are beyond me.

The third line’s emoji is conciliatory false embarrassment masking amusement, e.g. the emotion on your face after you intentionally lose in arm-wrestling to a five-year-old. That’s a pretty standard meaning for that emoji, despite the subtle shade of its meaning, because it’s quite common on Twitter or Instagram that you want to humble-brag about “what they missed out on”, but you also want to make it explicit that y…

Thank you for the explanation. That seems very complicated.

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

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Post by pcmoney » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 8:21 PM UTC

vmception wrote: post #183

pcmoney wrote: post #176

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No, never this. If the hiring manager won’t be your manager or in the same tree, run. If they cant be bothered to read the job description they put out, run. If the technology is critical enough to need previous experience managers should know enough about it to not make this mistake. Hiring is the most important thing managers do. If they suck at that it really doesn’t matter if they are great at other things.

its shocking how many people here totally misunderstand the role and daily job of inhouse recruiters they churn out these job requirements daily the person you speak with on the phone wasn't involved with writing it, just correct them and get to the first technical person as soon as possible. this is done at companies of all sizes, whether it is IBM, Google, Uber, Pinterest, as well as expected in non-tech companies.…

I don’t think a lack of concern and thoughtfulness around hiring is an irrelevant or nuanced signal.

Having been both a manager and an IC I strongly believe that hiring is of the utmost importance. The same thoughtfulness, care, and responsibility that goes into leading engineering teams that are in charge of mission critical systems must extend to the hiring process or else everything else is at risk. A single bad or even just not great hire can be devastating to a team. A company with a culture that is just recruiters funneling candidates thoughtlessly is guaranteed to fail over time.

Sure if you need a job or aren’t in an employees market you might have to suck it up and take that job. I get that. I would advise saving a lot more than usual as that charade of hoop jumping is going to result in layoffs/bankruptcy in the mid to long term. Also, don’t expect them to be any more thoughtful in the layoffs than they were in the hiring.

Sure a lot of big companies do thoughtless hiring and that might work for awhile when you just need to scale thoughtlessly but a lot of big companies also get their lunch eaten by smaller companies with more thoughtful managers (ex. IBM, MSFT pre Nadella, possibly Google now)