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Re: I bought netflix.soy

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post #115

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Not all registries participate in the SRS registry protocol. Some of the lesser known ccTLDs must be registered by the individual authorities. It's not accurate to run a DNS query to determine whether the domain is available because one can own the domain, but decide not to set any DNS records.

Wouldn't non-existent domains just return NXDOMAIN?

Yes, but so do registered domains without DNS records.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#262
post #154

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No, they can use their trademark to take control of the domain without paying any money through UDRP.

That’s not how trademark law works, at least. Does the URDP really let trademark holders take down sites that are critical of them?

I wouldn't expect UDRP to allow a trademark holder to take down a site critical of the holder; I that's a legitimate use of the trademark, even if it's not approved or desired.

However, that's not really what most companies are worried about, they're worried about phishing or scams or misleading sites with their name; UDRP should allow those to be taken down fairly easily, although the question is always if it's less expensive to register the domain or to leave it unregistered and dispute it if it's misused.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#263
> There was one left: netflix.soy (if you didn't click the link, soy means "I am" in Spanish)

apparently netflix.tofu was already taken (tofu is the infinitive form of the verb "fu" in TLDish)

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#264

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If you actually caused say, reputational damage, you could be stuck with a lawsuit for more than just turning over the domain.

People have gotten in serious hot water over Internet traffic that was accidentally sent to them. Owning someone else's trademark as a domain name seems liable to increase the risk of that happening. Even if you aren't up to no good, you've now placed the onus on yourself of proving that you weren't, whereas if you weren't squatting on an obvious TM domain that wouldn't be true.

> People have gotten in serious hot water over Internet traffic that was accidentally sent to them.

You've piqued my curiosity. Any examples to share?

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#265

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Yes, but the argument GP responded to was that "ICANN enforces trademark rights on domains" and that "If the trademark already existed when you bought the domain, and especially if it's widely used and ambiguous, you're gonna lose that domain if the company comes after you." He argues that the practice has its basis in trademark laws. If it is so, nominative use of a trademark to e.g. criticize a product is considere…

I agree in that perhaps entities with a public platform (in this case, literally the internet domain) should be compelled to provide reasonably equal access/equal speech rights to everybody. However, the law is not in that rationale's favor. US courts have repeatedly rejected the argument that private companies are state actors subject to the 1st Amendment [0]. The reality is that the internet is governed almost enti…

> I agree in that perhaps entities with a public platform (in this case, literally the internet domain) should be compelled to provide reasonably equal access/equal speech rights to everybody.

Agree with who? I said that I'm tired of seeing the defense, especially when it's in response to a concrete question that it doesn't answer. You apparently disagree with that entirely. I'm not tired of the defense because I don't understand it, I'm tired of it because I do understand it and don't need constant reminders of it to derail legitimate discussions of how ICANN deals with possibly trademark infringing uses of their services.

I don't know what makes you believe that I don't understand that and keep posting links irrelevant to how ICANN deals with these cases, which again is the question being asked. I'm frankly not sure how I didn't make that clear in my last reply.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#266

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The used to have an A record on some of the other TLDs they own. I maintain a list at captnemo.in/tld-a-record

Do you remember the details?

Yes, I did a blog post when it happened: https://captnemo.in/blog/2018/06/02/google-tld-no-more-a-rec....

Google was pointing its TLDs to 127.0.0.53, and once they started using the TLDs actively, they removed the records.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#269

gTLDs are nothing but a money play by ICANN and registrars and really make the internet a (slightly) more confusing and dangerous place. Within epsilon, all the money spent by companies on gTLDs is dead weight with no payoff in increased usability but only to prevent some naive user from being tricked. The advice I give my non-techie friends is avoid going to any business website that is not a “.com”

> The advice I give my non-techie friends is avoid going to any business website that is not a “.com” You can't actually mean that? Country TLD? (Eg .CA) I'm actually pretty impressed by how the .CA registry (CIRA) has branded itself in Canada. There's even a bit more legitimacy for sites because it's clear they're operating in Canada (or have at least made an effort for Canadian representation).

Presumably OP is American and does business with American websites 99.9% of the time.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#270
post #13

A Google domain name is lying on the ground. An IT guy walks past it. A friend asks: "Didn't you see the Google domain name there?" The IT guy replies: "I thought I saw something, but I must've imagined it. If there had been a Google domain on the ground, someone would've picked it up."

For anyone unfamiliar, this is a clever riff on a classic economics joke about the Efficient Market Hypothesis [1]. "Two economists are walking down the street and one of them notices what appears to be a $20 bill (or a $100 bill—the monetary amounts vary) on the sidewalk. “It’s not a real $20 bill,” the other economist declares. “If it were a real $20 bill, someone would have picked it up off the sidewalk already.”…

A little anecdote. I actually had this exact situation happen to me when I was a kid.

I was walking in a crowded street just outside a shopping center and there where a bunch of $50 bills being blowed by the wind. No one was paying any attention to them so I picked one of them up. You can imagine my surprise when I realised that they were real.

All in all it ended up to be roughly $3000 and my mum took the money to the police station. No one claimed it and a few months later we got to keep it.

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