Personally, can't recommend Inoreader enough for those returning to RSS. They do it well and they're beginning to incorporate some good innovation outside the normal structure what with collecting newsletters, etc. for you. My two cents, at least; I'm a happy customer. (Mentioning this since, as 40four points out, the article is kind of one big Feedly ad.)
It’s Time to Get Back to RSS
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Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS
#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe the world needs an unmonetizable space. I keep hearing how RSS is dead for many years. My favorite blogs seem to be doing fine, its not like my newsblur stream of posts has decreased over the years. Many people are unhappy about non-monetized readers and authors just being happy off by themselves. The people most able to "fix" that are the happy readers and authors, and the readers are not very motivated to spa…
Quality content doesn't happen without costs.
A lot of top-quality dev blogs are written by people who have existing well-paying opportunities. A lot of these people aren’t making an income writing blogs, just sharing the lessons they’ve learned from their jobs. Dan Abramov’s blog is a good example.
Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS
#263This is why I was so heartbroken when Mozilla removed first party RSS support from Firefox, for what seemed like an extremely flimsy justification.[1] RSS should be ubiquitous, and seen as an essential part of any service that serves structured incremental content. People should be emailing webmasters asking why there is no little orange icon. It also serves as a back door form of accessibility. But I strongly suspec…
Mozilla _critically_ lost its way. No RSS, no NNTP, no EMail; but a paid news service, opt-out services and so on.
The data services which provided content-without-markup were abandoned, and the fluff and garbage were embraced.
It was supposed to be that Mozilla would be a beacon of light in a murky web, but it has lost itself in the void.
Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS
#264Wait, shit. Was all that just an advertisement for Feedly !? Oh well. Anyway, for some reason, I do usually enjoy reading the 'Why CSS died' debate when it rears it's head from time to time. I have been toying with the idea of dipping my toes back into RSS. Let's say I don't want to pay for a Feedly subscription. Does anybody know some good places to start, to explore the landscape of available open source RSS reader…
Maybe in the article, where it links to a discussion of the top RSS readers?
Well honestly, I tapped out after the second 'Go Buy FEEDLY' pitch. But I did miss it, my fault, so I went back. I found said link at the bottom, and clicked it excitedly. Only to be led to some other guys article, yet another pitch for Feedly, and some other subscription service.
Queue price is right fail horn.
A quick scroll to the bottom did eventually mention Vienna RSS, and Tiny Tiny RSS, which both appear to be actively maintained. I guess I'll start there.
Thanks, I did like your writing, and I'm intrigued by the idea of 'gardening' an RSS collection again.
Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS
#265I am building (at infancy stage, now), a subproduct at https://www.pagedash.com/ that behaves as a Reader. It won't be an RSS reader, but it will be an aggregator of websites / blogs in general.
Drop your email here to be notified on launch (and to encourage me to keep building): https://forms.gle/XzZTrTEAtaAXfq6i6
Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS
#266RSS is dying (or dead) because it was incompatible with the dominant business model on the internet -- advertising. This is why Google killed it. This is why lots of professional publishers hated it. With HTTP you'd be able to earn money via embedded ads but you'd earn exactly $0 via RSS since the feed was stripped of ads, just content. This forced publishers to put useless blurbs, redirecting to the HTTP version, wh…
Someone explain to me why the following combination of steps wouldn't solve all problems - for both content publishers, and RSS app creators.
Content publishers: Update the RSS feed generator to include the ads associated with the post. Write tools for dynamic ad insertion that actually updates the syndicated feed.
RSS App creators: Build ad networks that work with both ad buyers and content creators to match content-relevant ads, and either replace the dynamic in-post ads (and share revenue), or add additional intra-post ads.
Someone explain to me why this couldn't work with the existing technology stack - no new protocol, or client-side changes required.
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#267I never stopped using RSS but this is a nice thought.
I ain't following anything political, though. Between general news sites I've subscribed to (which I hope are neutral enough) and the many contacts in my social networks that never stop droning about their politics (a few of whom I agree with, many of whom I disagree with), I have enough negativity in my life.
On a lighter note, I prefer "the old reader" over feedly. I feel that it's far less cluttered and gets out of the way. Wish they had an official android application, but their API is good enough that third party clients do the job.
Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS
#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
Quality content doesn't happen without costs.
A lot of top-quality dev blogs are written by people who have existing well-paying opportunities. A lot of these people aren’t making an income writing blogs, just sharing the lessons they’ve learned from their jobs. Dan Abramov’s blog is a good example.
idk but that does seem like it comes from costs, just not from viewer funding.
Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS
#269RSS is dying (or dead) because it was incompatible with the dominant business model on the internet -- advertising. This is why Google killed it. This is why lots of professional publishers hated it. With HTTP you'd be able to earn money via embedded ads but you'd earn exactly $0 via RSS since the feed was stripped of ads, just content. This forced publishers to put useless blurbs, redirecting to the HTTP version, wh…
Someone explain to me why the following combination of steps wouldn't solve all problems - for both content publishers, and RSS app creators. Content publishers: Update the RSS feed generator to include the ads associated with the post. Write tools for dynamic ad insertion that actually updates the syndicated feed. RSS App creators: Build ad networks that work with both ad buyers and content creators to match content…
It wouldn't work because it doesn't support the intrusive tracking (including "telemetry" and "analytics"), giant slide-over windows that obscure the content, repeated pop-ups demanding your email address, announcements that "you have 1 free article remaining unless you pay for a subscription," social media integration buttons, solicitations to "download our mobile app," CAPTCHA loops, "DDoS protection" delays and redirects, ad-blocker-blockers and autoplaying videos that are integral to web sites in 2020.
Also it is too lightweight in terms of cpu, memory, network and power usage, so it wouldn't push users to upgrade to the latest and greatest hardware (and data plans) every year just to maintain the same performance they had last year.
Re: It’s Time to Get Back to RSS
#270So wait the answer is to move from one big centralizer like Google Reader to another one, Feedly? Why not recommending the hundreds of RSS clients out there instead of selling your data yet again to another entity?