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Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by sergeykish »

qubex wrote: post #234
sergeykish wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tabs is a form of "Multiple Top-Level Windows Interface"? Windows MDI is a nested window manager. Tile and Cascade, move and resize, maximize, minimize. That is gone. Windows stay maximized, title bar eaten by buttons and tabs. Browser tabs is Taskbar: * Navigation: Ctrl+Tab vs Alt+Tab * Position: Top vs Screen Edge * when open a lot both were unmanageable

MDI stands for “Multiple Document Interface”. I have no idea what (Windows-specific) construct you are referring to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple-document_interface

I am not Windows developer and sure I didn't know this "Windows-specific construct". But I can google https://www.google.com/search?q=Multiple+Top-Level+Windows+I...

Also I can look on the link I post and Ctrl+F "Multiple Top-Level Windows Interface"

> Microsoft Word 2003: MDI until Microsoft Office 97. After 2000, Word has a Multiple Top-Level Windows Interface, thus exposing to shell individual SDI instances, while the operating system recognizes it as a single instance of an MDI application.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by kactus »

romwell wrote: post #105

Great, yet another Opera browser feature finally becoming mainstream! It only took a decade[1]. [1] https://www.practicalecommerce.com/Opera-11-Launches-Tab-Sta...

This is still the best implementation of this feature and no other browser has gotten it right, yet. Even Blink-based Opera now fails in this regard.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by Shaddox »

What's a good browser for personal use nowadays? I have Firefox on my desktop but on mobile the experience is very lacking, with many pages downright breaking. I'm currently trying out brave which seems to at least block ads and tracking.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by waddlesplash »

qubex wrote: post #169
DonHopkins wrote: post #163

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I implemented tabbed windows for NeWS, UniPress (Gosling) Emacs, and the HyperTies hypermedia authoring tool in 1988, and shipped them in a commercial product (UniPress Emacs 2.20). They were written in object oriented PostScript, as an extension of the NeWS window manager, so you could apply them to the windows of all NeWS applications, and they were especially useful for UniPress Emacs (which was the first version…

Very impressive. I wish this had become a common feature of GUIs beyond the browser. One thing I liked a lot about the Windows95 GUI when it was introduced were the tabbed property and settings. They kind of went by the wayside as a general concept though they survive in places (not that I’ve had much experience with Windows over the course of the past 20 years or so). On the topic of moving tabs, I was a BeOS user a…

Haiku, the BeOS' spiritual successor, did develop the feature further into "Stack & Tile": https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/gui.html#stack-ti...

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

baxtr wrote: post #257
maciekmm wrote: post #90

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Shameless plug. I made the ContainerTabsSidebar firefox addon[0], which is inspired by the TST. It groups tabs based on firefox privacy containers, which means every container has an isolated cookie store. I'm a tab hoarder and developed it to work for such "use-case". It's very similar to the groups presented, but displays tabs vertically. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/container-tab...

This feels like tabs are becoming bookmarks

Tabs are bookmarks that can keep their state. Normal bookmarks have only the URL, and any parameters that go in the URL, but discard the rest, like your position on the page, your navigation history, or what you are doing in a PWA.

Tabs don't discard data, bookmarks do. Sometimes you just want the landing page and a bookmark is fine, other times you want the extra data and a long-lived tab is needed.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by caribousoup »

dbbk wrote: post #230
bbx wrote: post #129

It seems to me I’m in the minority by being a minimalist here? I have at most 10 tabs open. Same for Sublime Text open files. I regularly close all but one tab/file just to reset my cognitive load. This does force me to rely on the history from time to time, which I must say is a true pain in Chrome. You can’t even search or filter by date. Also, revisiting a page will move it up the top of the list, which is annoyin…

I'm always constantly over 100. It mostly spirals out of control when deep in research and going down the rabbit hole.

I'm curious, wouldn't you read the info and process it in your mind, and then close the tab when done? If it's something you will need to reference again later, then bookmark it? Like you know... a book. Put it back on the shelf or have hundreds of books open on the floor.

I do not understand tab people. I do have a meticulously organized bookmark system though. Do tab people use bookmarks much at all?

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by chacha2 »

baxtr wrote: post #257
maciekmm wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shameless plug. I made the ContainerTabsSidebar firefox addon[0], which is inspired by the TST. It groups tabs based on firefox privacy containers, which means every container has an isolated cookie store. I'm a tab hoarder and developed it to work for such "use-case". It's very similar to the groups presented, but displays tabs vertically. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/container-tab...

This feels like tabs are becoming bookmarks

Look at the new Firefox Preview on Android. They're embraced that way.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by zild3d »

rb808 wrote: post #258
bbx wrote: post #129

It seems to me I’m in the minority by being a minimalist here? I have at most 10 tabs open. Same for Sublime Text open files. I regularly close all but one tab/file just to reset my cognitive load. This does force me to rely on the history from time to time, which I must say is a true pain in Chrome. You can’t even search or filter by date. Also, revisiting a page will move it up the top of the list, which is annoyin…

Agreed, isn't this what bookmarks are for? BTW I always use bookmark toolbar, maybe this is similar to keeping tabs.

Same, the right side of my bookmarks toolbar tends to be the "backlog" or "later" for tab collectors.
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