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I calculated that each article might cost them a thousandth of a cent to store. Let's assume it's Enterprise Grade Storage and quintuple the price. Now it costs them a breath-taking five one thousandths of a cent to store.
Would you be willing to pay me five one thousandths of a cent for every article I could create?
Programming languages are being deleted from Wikipedia
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Re: Programming languages are being deleted from Wikipedia
#262When a graduate student, a researcher, spends so much effort in order to delete knowledge (or, more precisely, hide it), I find it mind-boggling. It goes against the very essence of science.
Like the California math professor who was recently arrested for repeatedly peeing on his colleague's office door.
Re: Programming languages are being deleted from Wikipedia
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There's lots of pages on Wikipedia that are basically self-promotion, or descriptions of inconsequential "news" events, or "micro-celebrities," or moderately rich people, or other stuff that will have no relevance in 10 years, except to people with OCPD who like to hoard information.
You're arguing that many pages in Wikipedia aren't useful . I don't think anyone is debating that, but are these pages actually harmful ?
That's a whole separate issue from notability, though. On this and many other issues I think the notability bar is set too high. I'm much rather see a wikipedia page on an obscure language than not, and I have read a few in the past.
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No, of course I know that :( The problem was that the papers mentioned were either 1) not about the subject in question or 2) not cited enough to count. Hopefully your professors also drummed into you that anyone can write a paper and send it to a conference -- the kicker is if it actually makes an impact. Isn't that more-or-less the definition of notability? None of the articles I nominated for deletion had any reli…
From the tone of his posts I can already tell he's a smug little b . A cynic would think that he's doing all this deletionism so that when his own pet project FRENETIC is done, it'll be easier to distinguish from other languages.
Re: Programming languages are being deleted from Wikipedia
#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's lots of pages on Wikipedia that are basically self-promotion, or descriptions of inconsequential "news" events, or "micro-celebrities," or moderately rich people, or other stuff that will have no relevance in 10 years, except to people with OCPD who like to hoard information.
You're arguing that many pages in Wikipedia aren't useful . I don't think anyone is debating that, but are these pages actually harmful ?
Re: Programming languages are being deleted from Wikipedia
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HN people, while I whole-heartedly disagree with chrismonsanto's actions here, let's not do any personal attacks. From wikipedia: ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greys_Law ) "Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."
Link broken. I thought it was deleted fixed link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greys_Law
Re: Programming languages are being deleted from Wikipedia
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Why not just formalize WikiProject rankings? Instead of being deleted, all articles with verifiable, independent sources should be graded on quality and importance by those involved in the relevant WikiProject(s). I think exposing that kind of metadata would be really, really useful.
I think the biggest problem I have with the notability guidelines is that none of the editors (pedantic as they tend to be) understand what the word "guideline" means. Most of the AfD discussions center around WP:N. Yet notability is a scarily vague and personal criteria. In this case, the original deletion discussion appeared to be 100% in favor of keeping the articles in question with only Monsanto against. The onl…
Re: Programming languages are being deleted from Wikipedia
#268Here's the main offender: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Christopher_Monsanto One of his arguments is that these languages are often only mentioned in conference proceedings. How you get to be a PhD student in computer science without realising that conference proceedings are the leading distribution mechanism for knowledge in the CS research world is a mystery. I may only be a humble honours student, but the cent…
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>"...you're going to be a professor, a profession devoted to the advancement of human knowledge and educating laymen in this knowledge" Correction: a professor is a profession devoted to advancing human knowledge and then locking that knowledge behind expensive paywalls so that only elites with institutional subscriptions can afford to read it. Academia couldn't care less about the knowledge available to the average…
...and this is why almost all academics put their papers as PDFs for free on their web sites. Have you even looked? It is times like this when I wish there was an appropriate emoticon to express an eye roll.
Use your newfound powers of exasperation wisely, my friend.
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Unilaterally? Anyone can !vote on an AFD.
I should make a tool that periodically scans the articles for deletion and always votes NO. I could allow anyone else to use this tool as well. Then I think the real voice of the Internet would show that we don't support deletionism!