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Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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This is classic shortermism. Reddit is, in the short term, driving more external users towards creating user accounts while in the long term removing one of the major value funnels for why they would (i.e. the quality of comments, particularly in certain niche communities/about niche topics). This will give them a short term "bump" at the cost of the site's long term relevance (as it falls down Google's search result…

This is just the next logical step in transforming reddit into some sort of not-racist 9gag. A stream of images and videos that encourage scrolling, not 2000s bulletin board discussions.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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post #175

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Yes. And HN is social media too.

And Wikipedia? And email? AOL? Compuserve? Citadel BBS? Finger?

dictionary.com defines social media as "websites and applications that enable users to create and share content or to participate in social networking."

So the common use case of wikipedia, reading about things, is not. But digging deeper into the editors\editing section there is definitely social media happening both in forming networks and creating content for others

I don't think email qualifies. While you can share content and network with it, it seems to be more of a delivery mechanism than a destination that users would seek out.

"AOL" is too ambiguous.

I always though of Compuserve as a service provider but maybe they did have some social media features

BBS might be the original social media

Finger is interesting as you could create a "profile". myspace and other social media seem to be a combination of finger and bbs packaged into an endpoint

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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I still am very upset about /r/politics becoming super partisan. Reddit as a whole has always had biases, but there was a time when /r/politics was fairly centrist and genuinely useful as an aggregator with intelligent commentary. It's now a reposting of vox/buzzfeed more or less.

agreed. I have voted Democrat for a long time, but I can't stand how partisan it's become. The comments are always so low-effort too. The top voted comment in almost any thread will be something like, "fuck trump".

Some people mistake catharsis for activism. It burns a lot of energy while not leading to any progress, or even to building a foundation for making progress.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Nothing lasts forever. Reddit is 14 years old. They've had a good run. I think there is a general trend away from user-generated content as a business model, because that content can be a bit salty. Reddit might just be cashing out because the wave they rode has already crested.

Echoing this, even just a year or so ago, I'd follow five or six different subreddits and check in on them multiple times a day. In the past few months, I've found that I only check "Today I Learned", and even that only once every day or so. I find the discussion here to be much more mature and insightful than any of the tech related subreddits. I had written it off as reddit being a young-persons domain and me getti…

It sounds like you're talking about "channel" subreddits, the ones that just form as arbitrary sets of people gather to—however ephemerally—discuss a topic, without ever really self-identifying as "members" of that place.

I find that the best subreddits are the other kind: real communities with members identifying as "member of community X", not focused on or created "out of" the Reddit community itself, but rather bringing in people from the outside because "the X community" happens to use a subreddit to communicate, rather than using Slack/Discord/Telegram/etc.

In other words, Reddit is IMHO at its best when it's serving as a (shared-infrastructure, shared-registration, shared-administration) host for otherwise-independent forums.

Reddit succeeded at being the thing that e.g. Discourse.org was trying to be—a cloud host for forums—by getting the most attention and virality, by taking advantage of the network effects that come from integrating those forums into one larger meta-forum structure. But that meta-forum, and the random "by Redditors, for Redditors" forums that shoot up out of it, aren't the real value-prop. The individual forums hosted for their own communities' sakes are. The meta-forum is just there so that people are aware that Reddit exists when they're thinking about which cloud forum host to use.

Those independent third-party forums are healthy self-contained communities, because they're planned—they were probably started by a PR effort of a company or nonprofit org, and probably have real, paid "community managers" assigned to moderate them.

Reddit's own random-offshoot forums have none of these advantages. They're just people who wandered into an empty space, sat down, and started talking. Of course they don't have functional moderation. They're cliques!

Next time you're looking at a subreddit, ask yourself: does this subreddit have a website? And could it be said that the website "owns the subreddit" rather than the other way around? If so, then great: it's an independent community that happens to use Reddit to host a forum. If not, maybe don't even bother. (I'd love to see a list of the top subreddits that are left when you apply this filter.)

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

#265

I'm hoping one of the ActivityPub Reddit-like projects takes off. (yeah, I know, someone else make what I want . . . ) (or, we should have just fixed spam on Usenet . . . )

Spam wasn't what killed netnews, big ISPs didn't want to serve it up for free anymore. Perhaps that wasn't what you were implying but in case it was, spam ain't what done her in.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Nothing lasts forever. Reddit is 14 years old. They've had a good run. I think there is a general trend away from user-generated content as a business model, because that content can be a bit salty. Reddit might just be cashing out because the wave they rode has already crested.

What comes next? Don't say Discord.

Hopefully people don't say snapchat/instagram. Ugh I hate those. I hate the suggestion that we can't have proper social websites anymore because people only want to share pictures from their phones lol.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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It worked for me on quora, but that will be the last time.

For some definition of "worked" ... sure, you signed up. Then what? I already had an account when Quora did it, and that made me use it less (wasn't always signed in, wasn't always willing to sign in - e.g. incognito sessions). For a long while, I started going back less and less - was only brought back occasionally by their emails which were still pretty good. Recently the emails got so bad that I unsubscribed (I ki…

The thing that slowed my usage of Quora down to basically once every few months is so many of the answers to sincere subjects are promotional for some product someone's pushing—even if it's actually off-topic but some damned keyword aligned!

I liked it before that kind of activity proliferated the space.

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post #120

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Hasn't stopped Pinterest from flooding google image search results.

Pinterest needs to be blacklisted from search engines. I'm never signing up for an account there, period.

lol, reminds me of the image search I did last week to find some earrings for my mom. "celestial earrings threader -amazon -etsy -pinterest -aliexpress -alibaba -dhgate"

The internet is becoming a friggin pain in the ass.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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If you have a reddit account and go to the site not logged in the site looks like trash. The articles seem worse than what you see when logged in. Similar to YouTube if you aren't logged in you see the trashiest videos on the "unlogged in" main page. I don't know if that's on purpose or it's just like that. But there seems to be a big difference in the quality depending on whether you are logged in or not. As for the…

> As for the reddit site itself I wonder what is the ratio of old.reddit viewers vs reddit viewers are. I moderate a top 100 sub and if the built-in stats are to be believed, the recent breakdown is something like: = Pageviews = 40% apps 28% old reddit 17% mobile reddit 15% new reddit = Unique visits = 41% mobile reddit 27% new reddit 24% apps 8% old reddit This doesn't really capture the ratio of contributors who us…

I moderate a rather popular programming subreddit (whose users you would expect to be more conscious of newreddit vs oldreddit), here's the eyeballed breakdown of our stats:

--- Monthly uniques (200k total):

New Reddit: 55%

Mobile Web: 20%

Reddit Apps: 15%

Old Reddit: 10%

--- Monthly Pageviews (3M total):

New Reddit: 30%

Mobile Web: 10%

Reddit Apps: 30%

Old Reddit: 30%

So in our case, while the ones using Old Reddit are the fewest in number, they are also the most engaged.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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post #44

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It's the same thing that happens to all "free"/ad-sponsored/VC-backed services. Unless you're FB or Twitter or YouTube, your ads aren't profitable enough to run your business. The business model is unviable unless you get that big. So you lose a bunch of money until you find a way to monetize or close. This always takes the form of user-hostile anti-features. Currently that's forcing users into your special apps, whe…

I call this the dismal equilibrium . Anything free that provides value is, in brute economic terms, mis-priced. Thus, it tends to degrade due to attempts at monetization until a balance is reached between its inherent value and the pain one must endure to use/access it.

Another side of the same coin: anything "free" that you wouldn't use if you had to pay for it isn't providing value.
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