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Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by Seirdy »

anoncake wrote: post #233
asutekku wrote: post #64

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Why not? A huge portion of developers uses Macs and windows support is coming at some point. Better to get an actual feedback from the developers.

One would expect an organization dedicated to freedom to prioritize Linux support.

Mozilla has implemented DRM support in Firefox. I think Mozilla is more concerned with reducing dependence on nonfree software than supporting free software.

Just to clarify, I don't fault Mozilla for having that attitude, but that doesn't mean I prefer it. I would prefer that they prioritize FOSS platforms like Linux and \*BSD, as well as getting Firefox on platforms like Plasma Mobile, PostmarketOS, and other GNU/Linux-based mobile operating systems. Developer adoption is a necessary (but probably not sufficient) precondition for general adoption, which is why developing for these platforms is important even though they are new/unpopular.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by Seirdy »

ken wrote: post #243
hbosch wrote: post #198

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Actually probably Mozilla’s largest user base

Why 'probably'? According to the stats I could find [1], Firefox has around 5% of Mac users, and around 9% of Windows users. Windows is Firefox's biggest platform, both in absolute terms and as a fraction of that platform's users. On Linux, Firefox has a bigger percentage (>30%), but (desktop) Linux is much less popular than macOS so in absolute terms they have the fewest users there. [1]: https://netmarketshare.com/

I'm really disappointed that Linux gets less attention from FOSS-supportive organizations like Mozilla. Desktop Linux adoption is a catch-22: people don't use it because it doesn't have as much software; however, it has less software because it's less popular.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by Terretta »

sincerely wrote: post #255
Terretta wrote: post #245

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> you cannot virtualize macos. You can, and it’s licensed to. Since Lion: > (iii) to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software within virtual operating system environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is already running the Apple Software. No hassle support page on VMware site: https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/1000131 EDIT: Amusingly on topic with gist of t…

Well if you can only virtualize it on a computer that's already running macos I don't know how that's supposed to help.

You can virtualize on a PC. Whether you may or not, depends whether you believe you own software.

And how it helps when you do it on MacOS on Mac hardware is letting you do all the things you virtualize an OS for, from a fine GUI on a decent kernel.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by chatmasta »

sm4rk0 wrote: post #237
glassounds wrote: post #219

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https://birdeatsbug.com is great for that kind of thing

Important part: $0; Essential features; Up to 3 users $50 / month; All features; Unlimited reports; Up to 10 users ...

Hot take: If you’ve got a team of more than 3, and you can’t afford $50 a month for a tool, you’re doing something wrong.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by dependenttypes »

jasonlaster11 wrote: post #199
saimiam wrote: post #21

This didn't work for me. 1. I installed the nightly build as told. 2. Open nightly build 3. Went to the "Save Recording" option 4. The first two times, I got a [javascript error] saying I could not record. 5. The remaining couple of times - after I open a "New Recording Tab", whatever that is - I didn't see the javascript error but the website whose clickthru I wanted to record using this tool didn't even load in tha…

Hmm, join us in http://devtools-html.slack.com/ and we'd be happy to help you debug it. If the tab crashed, you can get the report in about:crashes

Is this an official thing from mozilla? If so it is extremely disappointing that they promote slack.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by sfttty »

jasonlaster11 wrote: post #224

Thanks for the feedback! Replay is in the user-research and validation phase and still quite experimental. firefox-replay.com is a work in progress. We're still sorting out the best way to communicate record and replay debugging and the new use cases. We'll share more on @firefoxDevTools when we have something to report.

Great work! Some insights from FANG. Two more things are necessary to make this a game changer: 1. JS level API to record RNR traces and upload them along with error reports (this will be a new W3C standard). This will be a compelling reason to include Firefox into the automation toolchain and at that point compatibility with Firefox will be mandatory. 2. JS level virtualization or sandboxing. Right now we have the iframe-level sandboxing but this granularity is too coarse because modern web apps have become really big (think of O365). We need a way to fragmentize the JS execution context into smaller docker-like sandboxes and record RNR traces for them. Rationale: big subcomponents should be isolated from each other and have separate traces. As a side effect, this new VM API will enable us to do one cool trick.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by riquito »

chatmasta wrote: post #264
sm4rk0 wrote: post #237

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Important part: $0; Essential features; Up to 3 users $50 / month; All features; Unlimited reports; Up to 10 users ...

Hot take: If you’ve got a team of more than 3, and you can’t afford $50 a month for a tool, you’re doing something wrong.

It's not like you can pay infinite tools at $50 a month. And if you don't care at all it's unlikely you're there to stay

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by chatmasta »

riquito wrote: post #269
chatmasta wrote: post #264

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Hot take: If you’ve got a team of more than 3, and you can’t afford $50 a month for a tool, you’re doing something wrong.

It's not like you can pay infinite tools at $50 a month. And if you don't care at all it's unlikely you're there to stay

True (to be fair, I did say it was a hot take :) ). But assuming this is a salaried team at a cost of $150k per employee, a $50 per month expense amounts to 0.4% of salary.

You're right though, it can add up quickly. Do that 20 times and you're at nearly 10% overhead. It's also a big assumption that the team is salaried. It might be a team of founders, or an open source project.

Ultimately you just need to decide which SaaS solutions are most important to your team.

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