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They ask questions which imply "I'm sitting on my hands until you answer me".
Is that your problem? Why?
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The benefits of a more asynchronous workplace
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Re: The benefits of a more asynchronous workplace
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Async doesn't mean "never", you do need to respond to your colleagues eventually.
If they need a response within an hour, then they need to indicate that (and ideally why) in their initial contact. If they expected a response within an hour and didn't get it, they can call me or physically come to me. I've told two of my bosses while being interviewed: Assume I'll check email only 3 times a day. Is that workable? No one says "No" (even though it may not be workable). One of my bosses actually sugg…
Sorry, but your inability to interact with your co-workers makes you a difficult person to employ. A ton of folks don't need this kind of special treatment.
Re: The benefits of a more asynchronous workplace
#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
If they need a response within an hour, then they need to indicate that (and ideally why) in their initial contact. If they expected a response within an hour and didn't get it, they can call me or physically come to me. I've told two of my bosses while being interviewed: Assume I'll check email only 3 times a day. Is that workable? No one says "No" (even though it may not be workable). One of my bosses actually sugg…
Sorry, but your inability to interact with your co-workers makes you a difficult person to employ. A ton of folks don't need this kind of special treatment.
That's an odd way to disagree with someone. The situation is symmetric. Why the assumption that I'm the one seeking special treatment?
My boss who suggested office hours wouldn't want to hire someone with your view.
Re: The benefits of a more asynchronous workplace
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Sorry, but your inability to interact with your co-workers makes you a difficult person to employ. A ton of folks don't need this kind of special treatment.
That's an odd way to disagree with someone. The situation is symmetric. Why the assumption that I'm the one seeking special treatment? My boss who suggested office hours wouldn't want to hire someone with your view.
It's more like your boss would rather have someone who doesn't need your special treatment, but since they have you, they've got to invent ways to deal with your special blend of crazy (office hours).
Further, you have no clue what my policy is regarding instant messaging, don't lash out at me because you're feeling vulnerable.
Re: The benefits of a more asynchronous workplace
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What if I'm both a creative/engineer (DS, actually), and an extrovert/talker? Do I need to ignore myself when I have headphones on?
It's a generalization, fall back on common sense and work with people who fit your personality/work style.
Clearly :) It was a (terrible) joke.
Re: The benefits of a more asynchronous workplace
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That's an odd way to disagree with someone. The situation is symmetric. Why the assumption that I'm the one seeking special treatment? My boss who suggested office hours wouldn't want to hire someone with your view.
It's more like your boss would rather have someone who doesn't need your special treatment, but since they have you, they've got to invent ways to deal with your special blend of crazy (office hours). Further, you have no clue what my policy is regarding instant messaging, don't lash out at me because you're feeling vulnerable.
Amusing that you're pointing out to me that I don't know your policy yet you feel free to make assumptions about my boss.
Whatever provides less cognitive dissonance, I guess?
Re: The benefits of a more asynchronous workplace
#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's more like your boss would rather have someone who doesn't need your special treatment, but since they have you, they've got to invent ways to deal with your special blend of crazy (office hours). Further, you have no clue what my policy is regarding instant messaging, don't lash out at me because you're feeling vulnerable.
Amusing that you're pointing out to me that I don't know your policy yet you feel free to make assumptions about my boss. Whatever provides less cognitive dissonance, I guess?
You've provided information about yourself and your situation (including your boss), I haven't.
Re: The benefits of a more asynchronous workplace
#269I tried sharing these studies at my ex employers in Europe hoping they'd spare me the hellish 40 minute commute in stop/start traffic and they weren't interested at all. Management there only values "butt time in seats" and the ability to come over and interrupt you by tapping you on the shoulder whenever they need something. As one of my ex CEOs put it: "If I don't see my employees stressing out at thier desks I get…
Unless your work output is very easy to measure, demanding you show up to work in one of the only ways to ensure you're at least putting in an effort for your employer. Of course, one of the hardest professions to measure output for is software engineers. I once worked with a guy who, it was discovered after a long time, actually had two Silicon Valley jobs. That he actually showed up at! He walked/drove between them…
having multiple start up jobs makes some sense, really. you as an employee are making an investment in terms of time in exchange for shares of the business.
the VCs aren't putting all their eggs in one basket with startups, so why should the workers?
Re: The benefits of a more asynchronous workplace
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It’s easy when work gets completed. I would hire anyone remotely or let them play games at work if work is done. It is more difficult when we think their work in average or has a lot of defects. Then, the contract is for them to put in the required hours with decent concentration, and they have fulfilled their part in a measurable way that satisfies the manager. And truth be told, if their work were perfect, they wou…
Then the junior developers never get the benefit/mentorship of the best senior developers, instead they get mentored by the senior devs with poor productivity. That seems like a recipe for more unproductive developers
Hire juniors who can actually read the fscking code and docs.