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Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Slightly off-topic, but who here uses a HEDT (high-end desktop) or workstation computer for software development? Does it make a significant difference in comparison with a standard business laptop?

Not a HEDT here, just a regular desktop, but it is significantly more responsive than a business laptop. Also much cheaper than a laptop comparable in performance. Plus it's upgradeable so more future-proof.

I still have an old laptop that I use to ssh into my workstation occasionally.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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My company provides a pretty standard laptop, but they rarely have more than 2 cores. In native app development, Android Studio and Xcode are severely bottlenecked by 2 cores. The difference between my laptop and my Mac Mini (6 cores) is astounding. The difference between a build taking 6x minutes and 1x minutes is more than just 1/6 because it goes from "Well, guess I'll check email/messenger/HN real quick." to taki…

Slow builds can definitely break concentration. I'm on a dual core as well, although most new business laptops come with 4 cores. My build times aren't as long, because I'm working with Java-based microservices, so each service takes a minute or so to build (with tests) but even that delay can break concentration. Turning off tests helps, but then you don't always have the immediate feedback of the test results (and…

I used to be happy with Java and .NET builds, until I got to deal with Android builds.

Android is probably the only platform that in almost every conference has at least one talk related to how to improve build speed, thanks Gradle + Android Studio.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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I don't have an HEDT but an outdated Haswell i5 laptop (not an Ultra Low Voltage model at least, so it's quite fast). Last year I spotted a bug in Firefox and I though it was time to put a line in the contribution section in my resume. The contribution experience was a nightmare because a full build of Firefox took 3 hrs and running the entire testing framework took 4 hrs, though it turned out that I needed to run on…

Are compile farm still relevant in these type of scenario these days?

Yes. As a CI pipeline the Firefox team do run their own compile farm called TryServer [1] and is building a various different versions (possibly all of accepted versions) at a time.

Level 1 contributors (contributors who are acknowledged by one of Mozilla dev) grant access to TryServer.

[1]: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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What happens when Apple drops Intel and these become obsolete? I wonder if you can even boot Linux and use the internal storage...

The Mac Pro obviously shows that Apple isn't planning to completely drop Intel (as in x86) anytime soon. At minimum, new OS releases are going to support x86 for the next 10 years.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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So apart from the pleasure of being able to use MacOS, I presume it will be cheaper to just put these parts together myself, yes?

If the form factor is just a tower, well I can buy a tower myself. What is the advantage of paying for Apple a (presumed) bunch of money to build it for you?

If you don't want the hassle of building a PC (which is fair) there are an endless supply of places that will put PCs together for you, with (I'm presuming) a much smaller cut than Apple.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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I think they should include Apple Care for their professional equipment. This won't put any any more money in Apple's pocket but I could see it being another differentiator and a good bit of PR, especially to all of those price arguments. Plus, it's only $300 and I'm sure Apple could suffer that "loss" on a $6,000 - $30,000 purchase.

But then they would have to either extend that to all Macbook Pros, iPad Pros and iPhone 11 Pros for consistency, or admit that these devices only got the "Pro" slapped to the name for marketing.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Surprised no one(?) commented on the case yet - looks like they came to their senses and went back to the "old" case design.

I've been seriously considering a second-hand, early Mac pro - just for the case. Not sure if they fit regular/modern psus - but those cases were very nice.

Good riddance to the trash can design...

Now, if these wouldn't be priced like a car, and came with some proper AMD cpus ...

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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So apart from the pleasure of being able to use MacOS, I presume it will be cheaper to just put these parts together myself, yes? If the form factor is just a tower, well I can buy a tower myself. What is the advantage of paying for Apple a (presumed) bunch of money to build it for you? If you don't want the hassle of building a PC (which is fair) there are an endless supply of places that will put PCs together for y…

Actually those server boards and CPU's from Intel are pretty darn expensive, as well as the fancy RAM etc. For it's specs, I think technically it is an OK price, but obviously for almost all other purposes you can custom build a PC for a fraction of the price yes, that's still really powerful. If you know how to hackintosh you can run Mac OS too.

But yeah it's to get Mac OS, that's how it's always worked, and the Apple workstations have always been at the high price segment, from the early G3, G4 days too.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Slightly off-topic, but who here uses a HEDT (high-end desktop) or workstation computer for software development? Does it make a significant difference in comparison with a standard business laptop?

HP Z800 with 96GB of RAM, 2TB of RAID 0 rust and a 1TB SSD. C++ dev using Fedora 29.
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