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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by covercash »

tw04 wrote: post #242
leesec wrote: post #214

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Also owner of a TM3. Best car I've ever owned by a lot. People sure do get mad about Blutooth. Also, at least they're able to have a 'software direction'. Not aware of any other manufacturer who provides anywhere near this level of OTA upgrades. And obviously the autopilot team is a different one than the people installing games. Chill.

Right, because those vendors were smart enough to add support for Android auto and carplay and leave it to Google and apple. I have a model y on order, but if they can't figure out infotainment soon I'll likely cancel it. I spend way too much time driving to deal with garbage infotainment.

I wonder if they can just run CarPlay/Android Auto in a VM and display it on 1/2 the screen?

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by vageli »

slg wrote: post #249
vageli wrote: post #222

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> If we are going to be pedantic about this, and you pretty much have to be given the topic, a parking violation is not considered a traffic violation. Obviously a private parking lot isn't some completely lawless place, but many (most?) traffic laws don't apply there. So you can drive like 50 mph or do donuts, violate crosswalks with pedestrians in them, etc? Does your jurisdiction have no laws on reckless driving,…

I don't know what to tell you. You are free to Google it and see that it is pretty universal that many traffic laws don't apply in private parking lots (it obviously depends on jurisdiction). That doesn't mean you can't be ticketed for driving recklessly or endangering/injuring people, it just means it is fundamentally legally different than driving on a freeway.

While the letter of many specific traffic laws may not be applicable, it does seem that the intent gets through, based on my googling of traffic law application in parking lots and structures.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by yunyu »

Shivetya wrote: post #199
tidepod12 wrote: post #109

Bit of a bad look that the video clip showing Smart Summon shows the Tesla driving the wrong direction down a one-way lane... This might be a situation where Tesla Smart Summon works only when Tesla's are still rare. In areas where they are more common, I imagine a traffic jam of confused driverless Teslas trying to move past each other but get stuck in a small lane like the one in the video.

Owner of a Tesla model 3. Summon is the canary in the coal mine. As in, unless it shows signs of life then the fairy tale of self driving cars is just that, a fairy tale. If they cannot get a safe an accurate summon to work why should I ever believe my car will ever drive on its own. Do I believe it will come, not for years. My car cannot even identify a speed limit sign, maybe version 10 will help on that. I doubt i…

Tesla is the only major autonomous vehicle manufacturer which does not use lidar for perception/localization. As such, they are substantially behind the rest of the AV industry when it comes to these areas.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by xvector »

binaryblitz wrote: post #213
Shivetya wrote: post #199

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Owner of a Tesla model 3. Summon is the canary in the coal mine. As in, unless it shows signs of life then the fairy tale of self driving cars is just that, a fairy tale. If they cannot get a safe an accurate summon to work why should I ever believe my car will ever drive on its own. Do I believe it will come, not for years. My car cannot even identify a speed limit sign, maybe version 10 will help on that. I doubt i…

I rented a model three for a week long trip, and while I understand some of your frustrations, a lot of them are not the norm from my experience. Both speed limit sign detection, and self driving on the freeway worked flawlessly for me. I guess YMMV.

A lot of them are the norm. These are the most common complaints amongst Tesla users and they’ve gone unaddressed for far too long.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by bobsil1 »

ncr100 wrote: post #14
defap wrote: post #10

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I believe it's controlled by a sort of dead man's switch, i.e. you must continuously hold down a button for the car to move.

Literally - you stop holding it until after you are dead. There must be additional safety features in the software to avoid collision with obstacles? Sonar sensors?

Er, the entire autopilot sensor and NN stack…

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by xvector »

Ambroos wrote: post #208
Shivetya wrote: post #199

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Owner of a Tesla model 3. Summon is the canary in the coal mine. As in, unless it shows signs of life then the fairy tale of self driving cars is just that, a fairy tale. If they cannot get a safe an accurate summon to work why should I ever believe my car will ever drive on its own. Do I believe it will come, not for years. My car cannot even identify a speed limit sign, maybe version 10 will help on that. I doubt i…

Well, I would hope the engineers working on Netflix and Caraoke aren't the ones who are working on self-driving features. They seem like different enough things that they could be worked on simultaneously. Full self-driving is a long time away anyway, and while we wait for that, features like this help cope with not having full self-driving and differentiating the car in the market.

I don’t agree with this. Software engineers are strong enough generalists that the people working on Cuphead could work on something actually useful.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by bobsil1 »

vel0city wrote: post #228
tempestn wrote: post #200

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So glad I can watch Netflix and Youtube and play games on my phone. After all I can't do any of those with my computer.

I am not always around my computer. I almost always have my phone around while in my car.

Is your phone 15"?

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by FireBeyond »

bobsil1 wrote: post #253
rainyMammoth wrote: post #243

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I'm driving a Toyota Corolla with lane assist which does 95% of what Tesla "Self Driving" does. It accelerates and brakes for me in traffic, and correct courses to stay in my lane. This is a 18k$ car and I would not accept trading Bluetooth issues with fancy parking summon features.

Does it steer and lane center in general, besides when you drift out of lane?

Current cars that have lane centering and steering at all speeds:

* All Acura models

* All Audi models

* BMW 5/6/7/X3/X4

* Cadillac CT6

* Ford Edge

* All Honda models (mostly at higher speed)

* ... and so on.

Source: https://www.cars.com/articles/which-cars-have-self-driving-f...

This notion, particularly among Tesla owners, that active lane centering and steering is a Tesla exclusive, is at times wilfully blindered, to the obnoxious.

The last time I went through this was with a Tesla owner who swore that every other car's Blind Spot monitoring sucked, because "only Tesla paid attention to the speed of the car in the blind spot", which is... false. Even my 2015 A4 had adaptive blind spot monitoring.

Most to all mid to high end vehicles have all this stuff. Tesla isn't miraculous in automotive technology. Which isn't to say they haven't done great things. But even reading this list... ugh. Was the ability to watch Netflix or sing "Car-aoke" the most demanded of new features for Tesla owners?

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by aledalgrande »

chrisstanchak wrote: post #139
lazyjones wrote: post #118

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Imagine how much bandwidth they'd save if Superchargers with WiFi offered the latest software version cached locally at full WiFi speed to the cars...

CDN costs must be negligible compared to the cost of managing that.

Yes, I imagine many security problems with local deployments.
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