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Adblock Radio: An adblocker for live radio streams and podcasts

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Re: Adblock Radio: An adblocker for live radio streams and podcasts

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Post by CodeMage »

magic_beans wrote: post #260
CodeMage wrote: post #240

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Different folks, different strokes. I'm also adblocking and I started way before it became a privacy thing, because I don't. Want. Ads. In my content.

Do you pay for your content then?

I listen to music on Spotify, I watch shows and movies on Netflix and Amazon Video. I buy my video games on GOG and Steam. I buy my books and read them on my Kindle.

What does that leave? I don't pay for YouTube, for example. Not that I care that much, because the stuff I watch on YouTube is mostly not the stuff I would miss. The stuff I would miss would probably be available even if YouTube didn't exist (e.g. Zero Punctuation).

Since we're talking about paying, here's another question: do I resort to piracy? Yes, because there are often good reasons to do so.

Movies and shows? Netflix and Amazon mostly don't have subtitles in Spanish, so when I wanna watch something with my wife, sometimes the only way is to download it.

Music? I'd love to be able to come to some agreement with Spotify that lets me save a number of songs a month or a year and let them be mine, so they'll never disappear from my playlist just because Spotify pulled them.

Books? Usually the first book I read from an author I haven't read before is a book I'll pirate. If it's good, I'll buy it and buy that author's subsequent books. We used to use libraries for that kind of stuff.

As you can see, most of those problems aren't solvable by ads.

Here's a question for you, though: do you think Wikipedia would be better off with ads?

Re: Adblock Radio: An adblocker for live radio streams and podcasts

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Post by cwkoss »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #255
cwkoss wrote: post #201

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Contact the advertiser's sales department, waste their time, then chew them out for their shady advertising practices. Tell them that every time you hear an ad for them without a disclaimer, you will personally tell 10 friends or strangers that their organization is run by unethical crooks and should be avoided at all cost. Since you're in India, I wonder how economical it would be to hire a telemarketing company to…

Although it might legally possible for me to take them to court for their advertising practices, integrity in Indian media is very negligible. Only few news media, mostly those which had been existing for over hundred years as news paper, still maintain some integrity after switching to online media but obviously they are at the verge of bankruptcy as they cannot compete with limited attention, instant gratification,…

A robodialer with a message complaining about their advertising practices could probably lock up their sales line for a couple days for the same cost as a few meals. Humans would likely be more persuasive though.

Re: Adblock Radio: An adblocker for live radio streams and podcasts

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Post by WhiteOwlLion »

tomr_stargazer wrote: post #258
sambe wrote: post #13

There's something deeply satisfying about the idea that the annoying tone and shoutiness (and volume increase) of most ads could be used against them for filtering.

Carl Sagan, in the novel "Contact" (1985), actually predicted an ad-blocking technology that worked along these lines! He called it "Adnix" [0] [0] http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Content.asp?Bnum=2223

You'd think Google AI could easily block audio ads with TensorFlow. Oh, conflict of interest. Never mind.

Re: Adblock Radio: An adblocker for live radio streams and podcasts

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Post by oriettaxx »

sizzle wrote: post #262

Please do television next, I'll donate for this functionality even if all it does is auto-mute my "smart" tv, so I can tune out the mindnumbing advertising.

totally agree!

I Italy very often ads are in higher volume: so annoying, so maybe a filter will sure add info on how to spot ads

Re: Adblock Radio: An adblocker for live radio streams and podcasts

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Post by TeMPOraL »

j4kp07 wrote: post #206
jordanpg wrote: post #79

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I choose to define "unsolicited attempts to take my attention away from things I care about" as harm. I am happy to be sold things, on my own terms. I don't need ads to find out about things to buy.

You can't get much weaker and softer than this right here. I'm just trying to imagine the PTSD you must experience when faced with billboards on the highway or when you attend a sporting/musical event and see BoA plastered around the venue. Also, it's not "unsolicited" when you made the choice to turn on the radio and turn up the volume. If you don't like the ads, turn the radio off. > I am happy to be sold things, o…

> I'm just trying to imagine the PTSD you must experience when faced with billboards on the highway or when you attend a sporting/musical event and see BoA plastered around the venue.

GP isn't getting PTSD, but ads here are like mosquitos. A few here and there you won't notice, but once there's lots of them buzzing around and biting, the quality of life goes down very quick.

As for unsolicited - they are. They are a malicious third party injecting itself where it isn't welcome. Also, be it TV or radio, ads weren't supposed to be there. This is where the infectious nature of advertising shows. They came and took over these media, and dragged their quality down.

Re: Adblock Radio: An adblocker for live radio streams and podcasts

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Post by efdee »

onemoresoop wrote: post #167
efdee wrote: post #162

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No platform, no audience(+). No audience, no creators(+). (+) In general.

Youtube itself had lots of young creators before they started the monetizing game and they were creating content for free and a lot of it was good, honest and creative. Along with the monetization and aggressive promotion everything went into a shocking craze to increase the number of followers, the number of views and the volume of content. A lot of it is just crap.

Sure, but the question is whether Youtube as a platform could survive without the ad income.

Re: Adblock Radio: An adblocker for live radio streams and podcasts

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Post by buboard »

cwkoss wrote: post #222
buboard wrote: post #213

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nah , ad-supported media are invariably more diverse. Fear of offending subscribers leads to much more self-censorship

Ad supported media tends to be much more "clickbaity", and I don't think self-censorship to avoid offending corporations is healthy for society.

being clickbaity and being diverse are orthogonal

Re: Adblock Radio: An adblocker for live radio streams and podcasts

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Post by sizzle »

oriettaxx wrote: post #265
sizzle wrote: post #262

Please do television next, I'll donate for this functionality even if all it does is auto-mute my "smart" tv, so I can tune out the mindnumbing advertising.

totally agree! I Italy very often ads are in higher volume: so annoying, so maybe a filter will sure add info on how to spot ads

Smart TV's might have some developer accessible APIs, would love to contribute to an open source smartTV OS, anyone know if this project already exists?

Re: Adblock Radio: An adblocker for live radio streams and podcasts

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Post by jasonvorhe »

WhiteOwlLion wrote: post #264
tomr_stargazer wrote: post #258

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Carl Sagan, in the novel "Contact" (1985), actually predicted an ad-blocking technology that worked along these lines! He called it "Adnix" [0] [0] http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Content.asp?Bnum=2223

You'd think Google AI could easily block audio ads with TensorFlow. Oh, conflict of interest. Never mind.

Tensorflow is open source so you can build this at anytime and Google won't stand in your say.
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