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Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by Herring »

lepht wrote: post #256
tvon wrote: post #184

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Fair point, I suppose I just want a linux geek to look at the areas of OSX I consider to be deficient. I was thrilled when virtual desktops came to OSX as a core feature, but there are some bugs that seem like show stoppers that I'd think a *nix hacker would have run into. Similarly, it seems like 3rd party dev package management is always a chore... but on that front I'm probably just being anal.

Care to elaborate on the show stopping bugs of Spaces? I use virtual desktops constantly in Linux, but have abandoned Spaces when on the Mac. I haven't really taken the time to distill what isn't 'right' about Spaces, so I'd be curious to hear what others think are the problems with it.

Not really a bug, but I mainly found it too slow. In linux you can just scroll over the desktop to switch. And I couldn't see how to drag windows across spaces for easy organization (without going the long way to show all spaces).

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by Naga »

daniel02216 wrote: post #242
listic wrote: post #239

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Regarding OS X version: how do you go about upgrading OS X? I am a new Mac user. I was given a free 2008 MacBook 13" in colledge. It came with Mac OS 10.5.2 installed, which couldn't run some new programs, so I did an update and it updated to 10.5.8 which solved all my problems so far. Are you supposed do buy an OS upgrade? Or buy a new Mac?

You can buy a Snow Leopard DVD for $30, or get downloadable dmgs if you pay for the Mac dev program. Snow Leopard works on any intel Mac. Upgrades are easy and preserve all your stuff. No need to format or anything. Of course you can buy a new Mac too.

Just to clarify, Snow Leopard is OS 10.6.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by tvon »

Herring wrote: post #261
lepht wrote: post #256

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Care to elaborate on the show stopping bugs of Spaces? I use virtual desktops constantly in Linux, but have abandoned Spaces when on the Mac. I haven't really taken the time to distill what isn't 'right' about Spaces, so I'd be curious to hear what others think are the problems with it.

Not really a bug, but I mainly found it too slow. In linux you can just scroll over the desktop to switch. And I couldn't see how to drag windows across spaces for easy organization (without going the long way to show all spaces).

If you drag a window to the edge of a space it'll flip after a brief delay.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by Herring »

tvon wrote: post #263
Herring wrote: post #261

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Not really a bug, but I mainly found it too slow. In linux you can just scroll over the desktop to switch. And I couldn't see how to drag windows across spaces for easy organization (without going the long way to show all spaces).

If you drag a window to the edge of a space it'll flip after a brief delay.

Well, dragging itself is a chore.

I get that he hates the desktop metaphor, but it still needs to be improved. Little things like the cube metaphor & wobbly windows go a long way.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by chc »

Tichy wrote: post #152
generalk wrote: post #73

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I don't follow. Command+Q and AppNameMenu->Quit both disagree with you.

Have you tried to explain that to your mum?

As a lab instructor at a community college, I explained this to hundreds of people. None had much trouble with it.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by chc »

philwelch wrote: post #250
jonursenbach wrote: post #249

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Then don't run desktop Twitter applications. Problem solved?

I don't. That was , in fact, my original point: did you see the comment I was originally replying to? tommi explicitly named Growl notifications of new tweets as an important feature of desktop Twitter clients as opposed to just using the website. I, on the other hand, find Growl notifications to be an anti-feature more often than not, and disable them for all kinds of things (IM clients, Firefox, etc.) I actually do…

So your point is that people who voluntarily it tend to have a less favorable opinion? That is not exactly surprising. Not to say your priorities aren't right for you, but I don't see the larger point here beyond "I prefer different things!"

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by chc »

elvirs wrote: post #188
J3L2404 wrote: post #172

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Except that your point is factually wrong, which is why you tried to backtrack. You should have deleted your post while you had the chance.

how is it wrong? apple advertises the fact that they will let buyers 'even redownload' for free the app a customers bought earlier. what is so great about it to advertise? is not that normal? I dont like the fact that apple makes a normal thing sound like a favor it is doing to its customers. which part is wrong in it?

Most people are not familiar with app stores, and barely more familiar with downloading software in general (rather than going to Best Buy to get a box or just having their son install it). It is not "normal" for them. Whether they'll lose the app if their computer crashes is a real question people have (and in fact some online stores do make it a real PITA to redownload). Apple is answering those people.

TL;DR: The world does not revolve around geeks.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by chc »

elvirs wrote: post #204
J3L2404 wrote: post #195

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This part: >its amazing how apple expected customers to pay for the same digital product over and over. Or are you trying to pretend you didn't say that?

and why are downvoting like a kid everything i say, even questions :) its a conversation dude, chill.

J3L2404 is not downvoting you — other people are, presumably because they do not think your conversation is adding to the discussion as a whole (or maybe they're just vindictive Apple fans). HN does not allow you to downvote responses to your own comments, so it couldn't be J3L2404.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by jonursenbach »

dgroves wrote: post #179

My x-wife purchased a substantially number of songs from iTunes - we are talking a 5 digit investment. When I moved over seas to England; I was no longer able to partake in my music due to the DRM placed on it by Apple and my new "jurisdiction." I am very deeply suspicious about the 'app-store' what if I purchase an application while I am here in the UK? Is it going to work when I get back to the USA - or will they f…

Why not just use something like FairGame to strip the DRM?

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by kinetik »

dolinsky wrote: post #104
ceejayoz wrote: post #31

If you get an error 100 ( http://yfrog.com/h4b9kkp ) attempting to download any apps, clear /Library/Caches and ~/Library/Caches. Something to do with the Terms and Conditions acceptance not firing.

I'm having an even harder problem - I have no ability to login using my current Apple ID (linking to a more detailed post I just made on tumblr, not trying to link whore). http://dolinsky.tumblr.com/post/2623950787/sour-apple-app-st...

Amusingly, the password reset tool at iforgot.apple.com still allows six character passwords.
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