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This "solution" ignores the fallout of said actions. The British lost their highly profitable Indian colony because the citizens at home could not stomach the killings of hundreds of Indians. The average American would not be OK with seeing videos of millions of refugees being mowed down at the border. And that's ultimately what it would take. When you're dying of dehydration or starving to death, you aren't going to…
>This "solution" ignores the fallout of said actions. The British lost their highly profitable Indian colony because the citizens at home could not stomach the killings of hundreds of Indians. The average American would not be OK with seeing videos of millions of refugees being mowed down at the border. When the alternative is living next to them, that perception might change. Time will tell.
India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius
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#262I think humidity is a big problem in a lot of places in India with high temperature. In my village in easter UP in India, summer was intolerable because of high humidity and shortage of electricity. (We used to have 8hours electricity per day, but sometimes outages would happen and would go unrepaired for week to month). It was impossible to do anything but take a hand fan and use it to cool yourself. A lot of the ti…
Now days, you can get 24x7 electricity in tier 1, 2 & 3 cities. I am not sure about villages. Our country is almost power surplus nation now.
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#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
A tub will work, sure, as long as it's pulled from a large body of water that hasn't warmed up with the air. Hopping in the local lake is an obvious choice. But in a detached demographic sense: effectively everyone lives in a city in the modern world, and while their housing might not be air conditioned most of the major buildings are. In an emergency like this everyone would just crowd into office buildings and shop…
> effectively everyone lives in a city in the modern world, and while their housing might not be air conditioned most of the major buildings are. The states of Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, and Uttar Pradesh lag the rest of the nation in economic development. This statement is very much not true in those places, and even elsewhere in India. Air-conditioning is still a luxury outside of relatively well-off people's house…
Not saying that #climatechange isn't an emergency; but people won't suddenly die.
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I'm not sure if it's an actual issue but solar panels are quite dark and get really hot. I could imagine that a huge solar array does measurably heat the immediate surrounding area.
Even if it were true, it doesn't produce extra CO2.
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#265Well before you guys start doomsday predictions, let me tell you that Churu is in Rajasthan which is in Thar desert. Temperatures like this, even though very high and uncomfortable, are not unheard of. We are in midst of a very hot summer but it is not something out of ordinary and yearly cycle (we don't love our summers). We are eagerly awaiting monsoon to arrive in India (early june is when it hits our shores). Aft…
> We are in midst of a very hot summer That's the problem. No matter what you think about climate change, summers are undeniably getting hotter. This might not be a doomsday, but it's something that will become more common and eventually will affect more populated areas.
And I believe that climate change is real. Definitely summers are getting hotter, and winters are getting colder and extreme weather events more frequent. Just that it is not yet a doomsday scenario
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> Of course if we had a single rational world government for any length of time we wouldn't be in this mess. No, you would be in another mess.
That other mess might be preferable. I'd say this will get bad, but that wouldn't cover it. We might well see gigadeath.
Alternatively, take the way North Korea is run and make it global. This is the only way it could work.
As a third alternative, take the way the EU is run, and make it global.
What are the problems? There is way too much diversity for a single entity to handle the various aspects.
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Nopes. Churu is a population center. It's a district headquarter. And population centers are not faraway from 50C at 46-47C being pretty frequent.
Agreed. Jacobabad, Nawabshah, Guddu (where my mom grew up), Kashmore are all substantial cities in Sindh not too far away where the mercury usually gets this high in summer.
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Rajasthan is a desert. The city mentioned in the article, Churu, currently has a humidity of 11%. I mentioned Tempe because it's nearly an identical climate. I've spent time in Ajmer, India, which is pretty close to Churu. It was only about 45C/113F when I was there. Obviously this is all anecdotal, but my anecdote here isn't off base.
Its absolutely not localized to Rajasthan. Almost the whole of north india is under a heat wave. And we recorded 37% humidity today in Delhi (The capital) with 47 C temprature and hot winds.
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If this is normal, then you imply that the article linked by inflatableDodo is wrong? Btw, I was kind of impressed, when visiting India and speaking to a few locals, that they don't see climate change to be a real thing, or at least to be such a big problem, and much overrated. The claim was basically that it was always very warm, and it is just normal that way, and they don't expect it to become much warmer. I'm not…
It is just anecdotal as opinions in India change every few kilometres. However, the Indian Government has made its stance clear on Climate Change: https://www.undp.org/content/dam/india/docs/undp_climate_cha... and: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-natio... > The claim was basically that it was always very warm, and it is just normal that way, and they don't expect it to become much warmer I thi…
And every ten meters, when asking for directions, ha ha :)
And the best part is that some of them, if asked "where is so-and-so place" (hotel / restaurant / bus station / etc.), will dramatically raise their arm, point "that-a-way", and say "tum XYZ chowk ko cross karke seeeedddddhaaaayyy jao" (you cross XYZ square and go sttttrrrraaaiiiiggggghhhhhhhtttt) - without mentioning in which direction to straight from the square ...
Always good for a few giggles (apart from the frustration).
Indian here.