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I would be a lot more forgiving of these screwups if Tesla didn't constantly swear up and down that they've solved self-driving cars. As far back as 2016 they were claiming they had full SDC capability above human driver safety [1], and their recent Model Y announcement suggests that the only thing holding it up is regulatory approval, and not failure to achieve the desired spec. >Model Y will have Full Self-Driving…
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I don't think he said he's willing to die. He said he's willing to test it, and presumably he'll continue concentrating and will manually take over if the car does something dangerous.
He came fairly close, honestly. "I'm going to do my best not to die, but I'm excited about this tech" is recognizing, and accepting that death is a possibility as a result of Tesla's self driving process.
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For a $700 car I might consider crazy compromises, but $70k+? Absolutely not.
That's what I find so interesting with Tesla owner. They spend a fortune on a car, then they minimize every single issue they have with the car. My explanation for this is that for a lot of owners, the car is a way to be part of a hyped group more than being a utilitarian object (what a car should be).
Nothing out there comes close to Autopilot. It's biggest problem is it works 99% of the time and people trust it too much.
It's also worth noting you are NOT meant to be using it in work zone. A point a lot of comments seem to completely ignore.
https://www.tesla.com/content/dam/tesla/Ownership/Own/Model%...
https://www.tesla.com/content/dam/tesla/Ownership/Own/Model%...
For the entire next year, my AP 1.0 (which is non-Tesla technology -- Mobileye rocks) had no trouble doing adaptive cruise control and lane assist. Meanwhile his AP 2.0 would brake suddenly and swerve all over the place. It took a full year of OTA updates before his AP 2.0 was finally on-par with the functionality that I had the whole time. Of course, by then Tesla pulled a "we're sorry, but the princess is in another castle" and came out with AP 2.5.
Now this kind of stuff doesn't matter to me. I got tired of that company's shit and have pulled out of the Teslasphere entirely. I'm now driving a non-Tesla EV, and I'll never look back. I'm also letting my government representatives know that they should support a common EV charging standard and keep Tesla so-called "self-driving" shit off public roads.
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I would think the several reflective construction signs with arrows would be enough. Also there is an impact attenuator (buckets of water). It's also cut too soon to the turn to know whether there was more signs leading up to it.
The only reflective gate that swings into the second lane from the left is after the barrier. I checked the street view linked above and followed it back: no signs.
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but still there's quite some difference in the fine prints between a new MacBook being "two times faster than previous model#" and a Tesla "comes with full self driving hardware&" # only on specific workloads & don't ever get distracted because it can literally kill you
this is the point I see getting lost. This isn't someone overstating the how good a pair of pants make me look. It's more like selling a flame thrower as a weeding tool. I know that sometimes these lines are objective, but acting like you can't tell okay and not okay apart because the line is gray in some cases just seems to be bad faith. If you are okay with Tesla misleading selling a prototype feature in the name o…
I would be a lot more forgiving of these screwups if Tesla didn't constantly swear up and down that they've solved self-driving cars. As far back as 2016 they were claiming they had full SDC capability above human driver safety [1], and their recent Model Y announcement suggests that the only thing holding it up is regulatory approval, and not failure to achieve the desired spec. >Model Y will have Full Self-Driving…
I don't want to dismiss your whole point, because it is certainly valid, but that isn't really the issue here. It is entirely possible for bugs like this to exist in the self driving tech and for Tesla to be correct in their claims that Autopilot is on average safer than a human driver. It is obviously troubling to see self driving cars run into solid and stationary objects, but human drivers do that all the time too…
Human drivers who are distracted do that all the time, AP is supposed to avoid that, it is supposed to be alert all the time, but when it sees a stationary object, the result of their algo is, "it must be a sign we can somehow go through"
We need to make it very clear that self driving cars are better than driving drunk, or when you haven't slept in 24+ hours, but if you are a driver who pays attention, don't use this tech.
And it is not that I don't want the tech to take over the world, I wish I could just put my kids in a self driving car and have the car take them to the school that is 4 miles from home, but we are nowhere close to that, even with me in the driver seat, if I only have seconds to take over before I end up on a ditch or worse.
My Model 3 suddenly changed lanes today for no discernible reason. I think it considered my lane to jump over into the next lane, for some reason. I should have hit 'Record' to save the footage from TeslaCam. (Notably, AutoPilot is not supposed to change lanes without explicit confirmation from the driver, which is clearly illustrated on the dashboard/panel.) It's a stretch of road on which I have previously used Aut…
While I am a novice driver, I've gone through that intersection before without blinking or doing the wrong thing. It's not a particularly complicated intersection.
Anyways, point is, driving is surprisingly hard. I think counting anecdotes on the internet probably gives you a sample heavily biased against Tesla, because most people don't go post "so I did this stupid thing" but they do post "so my car did this stupid thing".
Since ModelX incident I have made sure not to drive on first lane. I always drive on the 2nd lane and it is much better.
For a $700 car I might consider crazy compromises, but $70k+? Absolutely not.