Facebook, Instagram go down around the world in an apparent outage • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook, Instagram go down around the world in an apparent outage

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Post by duado » Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 1:23 AM UTC

mtw wrote: post #190

40acres wrote: post #172

I'm interviewing for a Production Engineer role at Facebook on Monday, thanks for providing relevant "do you have any questions for us" content.

Good question is why oh why switch WhatsApp to Facebook tech when it was running perfectly ok on its own. Never crashed.

So that engineers can be moved between product groups while carrying relevant knowledge and experience with them.

Re: Facebook, Instagram go down around the world in an apparent outage

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Post by mietek » Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 1:26 AM UTC

mtw wrote: post #190

40acres wrote: post #172

I'm interviewing for a Production Engineer role at Facebook on Monday, thanks for providing relevant "do you have any questions for us" content.

Good question is why oh why switch WhatsApp to Facebook tech when it was running perfectly ok on its own. Never crashed.

The answer should be clear at this point. WhatsApp provided too much privacy and not enough monetisation opportunities.

Re: Facebook, Instagram go down around the world in an apparent outage

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Post by maroonmed » Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 1:27 AM UTC

Facebook's Graph API and developer support pages seem to have completely gone to shit. My social media webapp's Facebook login flow is completely unusable ("getting a cannot link to Facebook" error), and I can't even report a bug or post a status update on my app's Facebook page without encountering an unknown error. It's crazy.

Re: Facebook, Instagram go down around the world in an apparent outage

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Post by yellowapple » Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 1:31 AM UTC

kerng wrote: post #146

bluetwo wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying that a cold-war-era system like the internet/arpanet meant to survive a nuclear war might be vulnerable to an attack if we take all the code and data and store it in the same place? :-)

Cloud is not much different then Mainframe Computing 2.0. I'm already curious and have been pondering about this for quite a while to understand what/how/when we will see a disruption of this.

Once upon a time Multics' developers predicted that someday computing power would be treated like a public utility that homes and businesses would buy like electricity or water or natural gas.

Given the proliferation of minute/hourly billing among service providers, it looks like the Multics folks guessed right. It just happened on top of Unix(-like systems) instead of Multics.

I wonder how long it'll be before we start seeing municipal datacenters?

Re: Facebook, Instagram go down around the world in an apparent outage

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Post by tinyhouse » Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 1:33 AM UTC

BTW, many apps are affected by this. I cannot log in to any app that uses Facebook for authentication.

Re: Facebook, Instagram go down around the world in an apparent outage

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Post by yellowapple » Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 1:36 AM UTC

duado wrote: post #261

mtw wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good question is why oh why switch WhatsApp to Facebook tech when it was running perfectly ok on its own. Never crashed.

So that engineers can be moved between product groups while carrying relevant knowledge and experience with them.

I'm pretty sure a bunch of Erlang programmers being shoehorned into a PHP codebase is the literal definition of Hell for all parties involved.

Re: Facebook, Instagram go down around the world in an apparent outage

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Post by mcbain » Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 1:38 AM UTC

ljm wrote: post #196

jyriand wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, a storm in Denver stops me from using Messengner in Estonia? I wonder where the butterfly flapped its wings.

Pretty sure it doesn't apply to Facebook, but Amazon's cheapest AWS tiers are around there. Same with Virginia.

But AWS doesn’t have any regions near Denver.

Re: Facebook, Instagram go down around the world in an apparent outage

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Post by entwife » Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 1:40 AM UTC

It's an experiment to see whether productivity improves when people aren't able to access FB and Instagram to slack off.

Re: Facebook, Instagram go down around the world in an apparent outage

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Post by Endy » Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 1:43 AM UTC

Since it went down for PC and not mobile, I was concerned if it was just an idea of audience testing, in the process of moving to an app-only platform.

Re: Facebook, Instagram go down around the world in an apparent outage

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Post by smacktoward » Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 1:43 AM UTC

shafte wrote: post #177

snazz wrote: post #174

I’ve seen many systems go down over the last few days worldwide. Aside from the possibility of a mega-DDoS attack (which Facebook denies), all of these organizations have fairly diverse tech stacks to my knowledge. Google’s issue (supposedly) had to do with their Blobstore API, we don’t know what happened with Facebook, and many other, smaller services have had issues as well, including three intranet services at my…

The best explanation is coincidence, I think. I have direct knowledge of two of the incidents in the past few weeks, and they have completely unrelated causes. Sometimes you just get unlucky!

"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it’s enemy action."

-- Ian Fleming (in Goldfinger)