All of those new gTLDs are pure racketeering. Sub-domains worked fine (and still do!) for testing or development purposes. Or even company-dev.com
I fail to see what value there is in a .dev tld.
Google .dev domain early access
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Re: Google .dev domain early access
#262Alphabet has too much cash. They have a well established track record of enthusiastically backing exciting new projects way outside of their core competency just to dump them like hot garbage several years later. They also compete in random new industries each time this happens. It doesn't seem like a smart move to lease a domain from a politically active mega-monopoly that might decide to randomly become your compet…
Hi. I'm the Tech Lead of Google Registry, the team that is launching .dev (not to be confused with the linked Google Domains, which is one of many registrars selling .dev domains to end users). You'll be glad to know that TLDs can't simply be discontinued like other products might be. ICANN doesn't allow it. The procedures in place preventing a live TLD from shutting down are called EBERO; more details here: https://…
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Re: Google .dev domain early access
#263Damn, now I have to change my hosts file, I've been using .dev for local development
I doubt they'll buy .local. https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/14802/if-someon... But generally speaking a subdomain on a domain you really own seems like a better idea. https://serverfault.com/questions/17255/top-level-domain-dom...
I guarantee you that ICANN will never allocate .local because the risk of collision is too high. They've already made that determination for .corp, .mail, and .home: https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2...
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#264Alphabet has too much cash. They have a well established track record of enthusiastically backing exciting new projects way outside of their core competency just to dump them like hot garbage several years later. They also compete in random new industries each time this happens. It doesn't seem like a smart move to lease a domain from a politically active mega-monopoly that might decide to randomly become your compet…
Hi. I'm the Tech Lead of Google Registry, the team that is launching .dev (not to be confused with the linked Google Domains, which is one of many registrars selling .dev domains to end users). You'll be glad to know that TLDs can't simply be discontinued like other products might be. ICANN doesn't allow it. The procedures in place preventing a live TLD from shutting down are called EBERO; more details here: https://…
What prevents Google from charging an absurd rate like some of the other TLD or other practices that effectively change the service?
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ironically, the very same HN that bemoans every new thing as "why should devs jump onto this shiny new things, just slow down already" criticises Safari for not jumping onto every new thing. HN is quite diverse and I'm pretty sure those are two disjoint sets of users. (I'm in the former group myself --- not a fan of presenting information in such a way as to decrease its accessibility while also increasing resource u…
> I bet I could make those accordion sections work in all browsers going back to IE5 without much effort, and use nothing near 120KB of JS to do it. / tags with JS polyfill is all you'd need. https://caniuse.com/#search=summary
Your post shows the big difference in mentality that's partly responsible for why we see so many broken sites --- I haven't ever used those tags before and would just go for plain old DOM style manipulation with JS (which has been around for a very long time), whereas you started with something much newer and took backwards-compatibility as an afterthought to be added on. Your solution requires less initial effort (providing you knew about the new tags) but then additional effort to work on older browsers --- that might not even be done --- whereas my solution may take a little more effort initially, but then naturally doesn't need any further considerations for backwards-compatibility.
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#266Alphabet has too much cash. They have a well established track record of enthusiastically backing exciting new projects way outside of their core competency just to dump them like hot garbage several years later. They also compete in random new industries each time this happens. It doesn't seem like a smart move to lease a domain from a politically active mega-monopoly that might decide to randomly become your compet…
Hi. I'm the Tech Lead of Google Registry, the team that is launching .dev (not to be confused with the linked Google Domains, which is one of many registrars selling .dev domains to end users). You'll be glad to know that TLDs can't simply be discontinued like other products might be. ICANN doesn't allow it. The procedures in place preventing a live TLD from shutting down are called EBERO; more details here: https://…
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Re: Google .dev domain early access
#267I'm not familiar with ICANN rules, but I wonder if a company can do whatever they want to a gTLD once it's accepted, even if it's not within the intended usage in the gTLD application? As far as I know, Google said they registered .dev for internal use and for Google-related products and it will be completely closed to Google, according to their application[1]: > The mission of this gTLD, .dev, is to provide a dedica…
To be fair, people are generally much happier with it being opened up than it being kept closed.
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#268I'm not familiar with ICANN rules, but I wonder if a company can do whatever they want to a gTLD once it's accepted, even if it's not within the intended usage in the gTLD application? As far as I know, Google said they registered .dev for internal use and for Google-related products and it will be completely closed to Google, according to their application[1]: > The mission of this gTLD, .dev, is to provide a dedica…
That application is bullshit. Everything in Google's network already uses their pseudo-"goto" TLD. I don't think they use any domains beyond the few used for the registry page either.
It's not a TLD, it's either a single-label hostname or a fully-qualified subdomain (both will resolve internally, the former obviously won't resolve externally but the latter will, you'll just get an auth error).
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#269Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, I get your point, but I think this is a meme exclusive to HN. Other than Google Reader, there really isn't much Google has shut down without having a newer, better product you can transition to. When it comes to something like this (AKA not a consumer product, makes money, relatively easy to run, etc), I genuinely can't see them shutting down a TLD like this. If anything, the complaint should be the lack of o…
Google Wave shut down without a replacement google service. [0] Google code shut down without a replacement google service. [1] Google plus is shutting down too. [2] [0] https://support.google.com/answer/1083134?hl=en [1] https://opensource.googleblog.com/2015/03/farewell-to-google... [2] https://support.google.com/plus/answer/9195133?hl=en
Google Inbox is about to close in a month or two.
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#270You can only purchase on Google Domains if your billing address is in a supported country (15 countries listed). Would .dev domain be available from other countries?
.dev domains will be available from many dozens of registrars, including most likely the one(s) you're already using. You'll for sure be able to get one.