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AWS gives open source the middle finger?

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Re: AWS gives open source the middle finger?

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>Linus is asked at the end if he's bothered that he's not cashing out on billions of dollars of use Linus has an annual salary of $10 million, https://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celebrity-business/...

That is a hilariously low salary given the impact of Linux on the world today.

After a certain point, more money doesn't really help the cause

Re: AWS gives open source the middle finger?

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post #230

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One of my favorite tweets of all time - Hey Mongo I just met you And this is craaazy but here's my data so store it maybe? unfortunately, I can't find the tweet.

Almost certainly Aphyr, aka Kyle Kingsbury aka @kingsbu. https://aphyr.com/posts/284-jepsen-mongodb

found it - https://twitter.com/bigdataborat/status/255746295036260353

Re: AWS gives open source the middle finger?

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I tried to distinguish "shall issue" from "may issue". A "you must let us know [so we can possibly refuse]" policy and a "you must ask permission [that will issue if there is no conflict]" policy are indistinguishable. A "you must ask permission and we reserve the right to say no no matter what" policy is terrible, and I'd not work under such a policy.

But the point is that it's not a question of probabilities, but of whether they are contractually obligated to issue approval unless specific conditions are met, so an implicit "[that will issue if there is no conflict]" is not acceptable IMO. There have to be specific rules for when they may refuse approval, so you can ask an independent judge to make a decision if you think the employer is partial in its decision.

"shall issue" and "may issue" are terms of art.

Re: AWS gives open source the middle finger?

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One of my favorite tweets of all time - Hey Mongo I just met you And this is craaazy but here's my data so store it maybe? unfortunately, I can't find the tweet.

https://www.informationweek.com/database/the-man-who-torture... , perhaps?

found it - https://twitter.com/bigdataborat/status/255746295036260353

Re: AWS gives open source the middle finger?

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Problem is, you could potentially encroach on a big company's interests without knowing so, i.e. they're working in [insert space] in secret, or create an ethical issue for the company. Truth is, excepting maybe Netflix, the rest of FAANG requires you to get approvals.

Microsoft doesn't. You're only required to get pre-approval in case of conflicts of interest.

Who decides what's the conflict of the interest. Developers?

Re: AWS gives open source the middle finger?

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> You're only required to get pre-approval in case of conflicts of interest. Given the extremely diverse set of things that Microsoft works on, much of which is likely done without you being disclosed on it, how can you be sure that your project is not a conflict of interest?

Conflict of interest = something you are directly involved with at work, or potentially worked on for the company previously. For example, if you're on the SQL Server team then contributing to SQLLite would reasonably be considered a conflict of interest, but contributions to the Linux kernel wouldn't be.

Even if your company works on a direct competitor to Linux?

Re: AWS gives open source the middle finger?

#267

It's mongodb though... It's well documented at this point you shouldn't be using mongo on anything that matters

And yet many of us are using it in Production. Including companies like Adobe, eBay, Expedia, Sony etc.

And it might be fine at those companies.

But I don't exactly expect the highest quality and reliability from Adobe, eBay, etc.

Re: AWS gives open source the middle finger?

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post #185

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> They are not advertising their replacement as MongoDB, either. I don't really agree there. The service is called documentDB and this is how they describe it [1]: > Amazon DocumentDB (with MongoDB compatibility) > Fast, scalable, highly available MongoDB-compatible database And the first 2 sentences: > Amazon DocumentDB (with MongoDB compatibility) is a fast, scalable, highly available, and fully managed document da…

> You have to read all of that pretty carefully to understand that it's NOT MongoDB I disagree. If I see "Blah-compatible" I know it's not blah.

Really? Because AWS Aurora is "MySQL compatible" but I assume they did not build it from the ground up. It's surely a MySQL fork.

Re: AWS gives open source the middle finger?

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> “However, developers are technically savvy enough to distinguish between the real thing and a poor imitation. MongoDB will continue to outperform any impersonations in the market.” That's a bold statement to make against AWS services.

For what it's worth when it comes to choosing a hosted ElasticSearch provider I would go to Elastic over AWS Elasticsearch Service.

Interesting, as someone considering using AWS ES for an upcoming project I'd love to hear more about your experience.

Re: AWS gives open source the middle finger?

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A major part of the success of open source has been the fact that companies have the option to fork/tweak/sell the code. MongoDB has benefited from this as much as anyone. They gained the adoption levels they have now by advertising these exact benefits. Only later did they decide you need a commercial license to provide it as a service. How many companies would have thought twice about using MongoDB had they thought they would eventually have to pay for it and/or couldn't monetize it themselves?

Also, it's not like Amazon is not giving back to the open source community (https://aws.amazon.com/opensource/)

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