Maybe we're seeing now that burning up hundreds of millions in VC cash to try to acquire users with free meals isn't really a viable business model? After being annoyed hearing them on every podcast I ever listened to for awhile, I signed up for the sole purpose of getting free meals, nothing else. I have a grocery store a mile from my house, I don't need a startup sending me food to cook. I did enjoy the free meals,…
The VCs don't mind, they got a great exit at the IPO. It's the employees and investors in the public markets that eventually paid for your free meals.
Blue Apron becomes a penny stock, trading under $1 for the first time
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Re: Blue Apron becomes a penny stock, trading under $1 for the first time
#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
I buy the family size of Blue Apron for myself (12 meals at $8.99 per serving). There is no food in NYC of any considerable size/quality/taste that is a quarter of that price for that amount of calories. Ramen noodles and tuna maybe..
> I buy the family size of Blue Apron for myself (12 meals at $8.99 per serving). There is no food in NYC of any considerable size/quality/taste that is a quarter of that price for that amount of calories. Ramen noodles and tuna maybe.. I live in midtown Manhattan, and I could easily purchase 12 prepared meals per week of good quality for $9/meal. In fact, that's one of the reasons I stopped using Blue Apron when I t…
Re: Blue Apron becomes a penny stock, trading under $1 for the first time
#263Always seemed a strange business model. Appealing to people who "want to cook", but doing so by turning yourself into a production-line assembler. Like saying your want to learn carpentry, by buying some Ikea flat-pack. What confused me (and makes me think I've overlooked something) is why nothing more interesting has come along from the supermarkets. In the UK at least, they're all online and deliver - but they all…
That's because you ignore the true reason why it's interesting. I got 800 games on Steam but when goes time to play, god it's awful. Never had this issue before having that many games. Recipes suffer from the choice overload.
Personally I also love it to try new ingredients. When it's part of a full meal, some ingredients "scare" me less.
> Like saying your want to learn carpentry, by buying some Ikea flat-pack.
No holes were predrilled in the yu choy I got in my recipes yesterday. It would be closer to get a few boards that you have to cut/trim/drill yourself, which as far as I know, seems to be a great way to learn.
> I'd quite enjoy one that let you browse recipes and would stick all the ingredients in your basket - but then added some intelligence.
It's weird but I don't trust my supermarket to offer me great recipes. I trust them to offer me food, but not great recipes. Even more so considering their goals is to sell food, not sell recipes.
> Or asks "what's in your fridge"
I agree but this always come down to the laziness out of me. Lazy me can easily click on an image that seems like a great meal, but way less on a adding every single things I may have in my fridge.
> Blue Apron and the rest seem to be trying to solve a real problem, completely the wrong way.
I personally think you just don't really understands whats the real problem.
Re: Blue Apron becomes a penny stock, trading under $1 for the first time
#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the way most stuff sold in supermarkets is designed for family meals Dude. Leftovers. I used to make a couple of family-sized meals on the weekend to have for lunch and dinner throughout the week. I’d also dine out 2-3 times a week to mix it up a bit.
Dude. Read the whole comment before replying: But it becomes problematic for me because I either have to eat the same meal 4 days in a row... "Lunch and dinner throughout the week" is not what parent is looking for.
> I’d also dine out 2-3 times a week to mix it up a bit.
Re: Blue Apron becomes a penny stock, trading under $1 for the first time
#265Always seemed a strange business model. Appealing to people who "want to cook", but doing so by turning yourself into a production-line assembler. Like saying your want to learn carpentry, by buying some Ikea flat-pack. What confused me (and makes me think I've overlooked something) is why nothing more interesting has come along from the supermarkets. In the UK at least, they're all online and deliver - but they all…
there was nothing blue apron or similar really was able to do to set themselves apart from what a grocery chain could do, less even.
Re: Blue Apron becomes a penny stock, trading under $1 for the first time
#266I thought about doing some subscription cooking service before but I recently joined the New York Times free 6 month trial and I didn't know/expect how useful their recipe section is. Takes most of the anxiety of choosing what to cook. For those who know how to cook, I highly recommend trying it out and following their weekly/daily suggestions. With this and the grocery delivery services, it doesn't make financial se…
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#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've found that by shopping at higher end grocery stores, or at least focusing on the organic/craft-oriented departments, the quantities tend to be smaller and much better suited to my childless, bachelor existence. There was also a learning curve to preparing food for just myself to consume. The priorities are different from the family household I grew up in, so much of what I had learned didn't apply very well unmo…
>Families make the costly perishable ingredients go further by utilizing carbohydrates like pastas and breads as fillers. As do many restaurants. I've (not very originally) joked that Tapas is Spanish for expensive and appetizers generally often seem pricey for the size of the portion. There are various reasons for this including the fact that there's a certain overhead to an individual order. But it's also the case…
Re: Blue Apron becomes a penny stock, trading under $1 for the first time
#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
NYSE has minimum share price/market cap requirements, so Blue Apron will get delisted if this continues for more than 29 consecutive trading days. i.e. It could easily become one.
What stops companies from repeatedly reverse-splitting the stock to keep it above $1?
You can do that, but shareholders can also do the following in response:
1) Demand a change in leadership, a sale, or any number of significant changes.
2) Bail out en masse and sell, lowering the price even further. Few investors want to jump aboard what appears to be a sinking ship.
Eventually you'll hit the minimum market cap requirement as well, at which point a reverse stock split won't save you from being delisted.
Reverse stock splits simply to avoid being delisted is telling investors "we have no idea how to change direction so we're just gonna kick the can down the road for a bit". They can work sometimes, mostly for:
1) Large, established companies (e.g. AIG). Investors are more willing to believe that this is just a bad stretch for an otherwise valuable company.
2) Inherently risky and volatile industries, like Biotech. Investors are willing to roll the dice a bit more with Biotech because it is entirely possible for a "worthless" company to become very valuable very quickly (e.g. by discovering a new drug, being approved for trials, etc.).
Blue Apron isn't a large company, and it's very unlikely they figure out some magic formula that makes their company significantly more valuable overnight.
EDIT: For a recent example of a company reverse splitting to avoid delisting, check out Helios and Matheson (MoviePass). Even after the reverse split, they're trading for pennies a share. They're almost certainly going to be delisted in the near future.
Re: Blue Apron becomes a penny stock, trading under $1 for the first time
#269Always seemed a strange business model. Appealing to people who "want to cook", but doing so by turning yourself into a production-line assembler. Like saying your want to learn carpentry, by buying some Ikea flat-pack. What confused me (and makes me think I've overlooked something) is why nothing more interesting has come along from the supermarkets. In the UK at least, they're all online and deliver - but they all…
Tbf, I have done one of those boxes(Hello Fresh) for nearly 2 years and I has absolutely definitely taught me how to cook, purely through repeated experience. It goes beyond being able to follow a recipe - after cooking nearly 500 meals I have enough experience to make delicious meals without looking at timers or measuring everything down to a gram. Plus, each meal works out much cheaper than eating out. So for me pe…
I just got 2 free boxes from Missfresh (seems local to where I live) and Goodfood. I tried my first yesterday and god I wish it was worth it to keep doing because they shown me that I actually can cook something amazingly good. However I didn't expected to keep buying theses boxes because they are so incredibly expensive, 10$ CAD per portion is starting to be pretty close to a restaurant (a cheap one but still a restaurant).
Have you really did the math to confirm this? Is the UK that much more expensive in terms of food? HelloFresh in the UK does seems cheaper at £ 4.20 / meal but still I just can't believe feeding 1 person would cost 430$ CAD per month where you live.
Re: Blue Apron becomes a penny stock, trading under $1 for the first time
#270Always seemed a strange business model. Appealing to people who "want to cook", but doing so by turning yourself into a production-line assembler. Like saying your want to learn carpentry, by buying some Ikea flat-pack. What confused me (and makes me think I've overlooked something) is why nothing more interesting has come along from the supermarkets. In the UK at least, they're all online and deliver - but they all…