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Ask HN: What to do after $8M (all cash, post tax) exit?

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Re: Ask HN: What to do after $8M (all cash, post tax) exit?

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This is a great thread. Throwaway also. Gonna write some stream-of-consciousness here, because I have to start my work day, but I personally made approx. this amount from an exit, and it has gone very well for me and my family (wife + 3 kids). Some additional fine-tuned advice of what worked for me: (1) don't be afraid to spend money - high hourly rates - for a good accountant and good tax attorney. (2) if I were you…

Re the 1% thing: might be worth it. Lots of people chase returns and pick risky investments. Instead of picking a diversified portfolio of index and/or blue chip stocks and sticking with it, they "play" the market, and almost never beat it. The 1% to a wealth advisor saves you from yourself. Of course, milage will vary

I think most everyone in the sub-$25M bracket is better served paying a broad-based index fund 0 to 4 basis points for VTSAX or similar and using fee-only planner/advisers for tax, estate, and investment advice.

Completely agree that if OP wasn't previously a skilled investor with a track record of beating the market (extremely unlikely), that they shouldn't now try to become one.

With this amount of money, they've "won the game" and have no need to beat the market. They only need to match the market over the next 50 years. That can be done very simply, reliably, and cheaply.

Re: Ask HN: What to do after $8M (all cash, post tax) exit?

#262
Learn how to know whether somebody is trustworthy. You will certainly attract a lot of friends who either want your money or will help you spend it. If you don't know how to measure trust, you might well lose a lot.

For most of us, the stakes are low so it is not a primary skill we need but with $8M, you need to know there are people who would ask for it all, promise the world and deliver nothing.

Re: Ask HN: What to do after $8M (all cash, post tax) exit?

#263
I recently met a friend's father-in-law at a party. He seemed like a super modest guy, and then I realized he acquired a similar windfall twenty years ago. He kept working at the same company, and then jumped to a project manager role at a new company. Even after major back surgery, he kept working like an average joe (and seemed to enjoy his job). Outside of family vacations, he has only made one major purchase from his fortune - a crash-pad apartment in the Upper West Side that ended up doubling in value since the nineties.

At the time, I thought he was a bit eccentric; maybe even a workaholic. Especially after reading this thread, I think he did absolutely everything correct.

Re: Ask HN: What to do after $8M (all cash, post tax) exit?

#265

>Should I donate it? do you seriously consider this? Sounds crazy to me. Or pretentious. Why bother with working another job? Do your own thing, fix something in the world.

Some people experience very real guilt/depression when a windfall happens "I don't deserve this" "why me" "shoulda been someone else" etc, not unlike survivor's guilt.

Re: Ask HN: What to do after $8M (all cash, post tax) exit?

#267
First thing you should do is something fun. Second thing you should do is something fun. Third thing you should do is something for someone else. Make that take at least year. Don't spend more than $500k on it. By then you'll know what you want to. Oh, and don't forget to be humbled by how insanely insanely lucky you are.

Re: Ask HN: What to do after $8M (all cash, post tax) exit?

#268
I would buy a high yield stock like wells fargo. With 8 mil after taxes, you could buy enough wfc to payout 220K a year in dividends before a paltry 15% tax. You’d likely receive increases every year and as you did, your stock would appreciate.

You might not like the idea of wells fargo or financials, so find some other lesser yielding stock(s). Never sell them and try to reinvest dividends at 50% with your minimal expenses.

A lot of people won’t find this sound advice, and you’d have to do your own homework so when you buy, you understand what you’re buying.

But, treasuries are too conservative, as is John Bogle in general.

Re: Ask HN: What to do after $8M (all cash, post tax) exit?

#269
1. Get an attorney to make sure you don't get screwed in taxes or by some wanker trying to make a dime.

2. As you described it, I would say invest all of the money. If you're fine living humble, then use the money as security. With eight million you can pretty much comfortably. A low risk investment like a CD can provide you with roughly a 120K (@1.5% interest) salary.

3. Continue to work. But rest easy knowing that if you have a trash job, you can quit and find a new one without worrying about how you're going to provide.

4. Pay off everything.

5. Find a couple decent indulgences. Buy a Corvette or take the family on vacation. But don't go crazy. Spend 100k.

Lastly, I think being too comfortable makes people unhappy. Personally the times when I am most secure, are the times I am least happy. Take up rock climbing, skydiving, marathon running or anything that makes you uncomfortable (preferably without destroying yourself). It'll keep things in perspective. I rock climb, canyoneer and run Spartan races and those make me far happier than any amount of money I have earned thus far.

Re: Ask HN: What to do after $8M (all cash, post tax) exit?

#270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Damn. How do I get into venture? I'm ecking out a living as a chief architect.

My path is 1% hustle and 99% luck. Given how lucky I've been, and worried about regression to the mean, I play things relatively conservatively :-)

Good on you. I might ask for some lottery ticket numbers at some point :)
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