Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th • Hacker News Board

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by Nelson69 » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 9:25 PM UTC

bvinc wrote: post #21

My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

I'm sorry to hear that. I wish the best for your family.

Is there something unique to tumblr that makes this content thrive there? If tumblr cleans their stuff up (and I know there are legitimate stuff that is impacted by that) won't those communities find refuge elsewhere? There are some incredibly seedy parts of reddit and sites like voat and just tons of places where there is "bad stuff" on the internet.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by tomjen3 » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 9:27 PM UTC

buboard wrote: post #107

x0x0 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vast vast majority of advertisers do not want to be displayed next to porn. Think of tumblr as nothing but a way to get pageviews for Cheerios and Volvo ads. It explains their decisions perfectly.

> The vast vast majority of advertisers do not want to be displayed next to porn. This i dont understand though. Who wouldn't their product to be subconsciously associated with sexual satisfaction?

Because they are scared it may hurt their brands.

And to be fair, most of the ads that appear near porn is extremely low quality, so they may be right.

Of course it is a self-perpetuating issue, but that doesn't mean that they can just fix it.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by IkmoIkmo » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 9:30 PM UTC

I don't really get it. Reddit can do porn and has an iOS app. A blanket ban just doesn't seem necessary, especially if it's a large part of your community and technically Tumblr isn't a particularly novel product in 2018, community is all you have.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by washadjeffmad » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 9:31 PM UTC

ot8 wrote: post #251

ASalazarMX wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I knew pro-anorexia groups use slang like "your friend Ana" to hide their actions, but had to google "thinspo" and "meanspo". Thinspo (thin inspiration) is positive anorexia reinforcement, like anorexic role model pictures. Meanspo (mean inspiration) is negative anorexia reinforcement, like aphorisms demonizing fat or destructive critic. Why are young girls so vulnerable to mental disease trends? What can we do bette…

| Thinspo (thin inspiration) is positive anorexia reinforcement, like anorexic role model pictures. Thinspo was originally "thin and sporty" (Thin+Spo) and promoted a super healthy and physically fit lifestyle and positive choices. Over time it has been co-opted by those with deeply negative body image issues, and those with anorexia fetishes.

I'm not asking for a specific source, but how do you know this?

I've just heard people saying it as 'in-SPO-ration' for so long that a -spo suffix seems more intuitively to be a truncation of -spiration.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by chipotle_coyote » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 9:31 PM UTC

BlueAThrow wrote: post #146

Apple is calling the shots here. Tumblr was not going to be allowed back on the app store while adult content was on the site.

Ah, I knew I would see this hot take here! I responded elsewhere, but in short form, this is very likely far more driven by Tumblr's new corporate parents wanting to make the site friendlier to advertisers.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by paulddraper » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 9:34 PM UTC

qwerty456127 wrote: post #150

vortico wrote: post #12

Isn't that the point of Tumblr these days? I honestly don't know of any non-adult Tumlbr pages. It seems to consist entirely of premium camgirl pages, NSFW LGBT discussion, furry and hentai art, and artistic nude photography.

They should really just have made another site (which could be fairly easy given they already have the technology developed, just get a new domain, set up a new server instance, tweak the design and that's it) if they want a "clean" one. Tumblr is essentially a porn site, banning all the porn from it to compete with Instagram makes as much sense as banning all the porn from PornHub to compete with YouTube.

Reddit is vastly varied.

There are mountains of politics and hobbies on Reddit.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by chipotle_coyote » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 9:35 PM UTC

intopieces wrote: post #241

Grue3 wrote: post #196

The real culprit needs to be called out here. Fuck apple and their puritanical crusade against porn. Anyone who appreciates NSFW content needs to boycott them.

Huh? How does Apple play into this?

Apple pulled the Tumblr iOS app after complaining to Tumblr about them hosting child pornography, not just NSFW blogs, and not seeing action being taken.

As I mentioned elsewhere, Tumblr stripping adult content is very likely a move toward making their site advertiser-friendly, because Oath (their new corporate parent) does not have the tolerance for losing money that Yahoo did. I mean, yes, getting rid of all content from "female-presenting nipples" on up should technically get rid of the child porn, too, but the breadth of Tumblr's actions here make it highly unlikely this is primarily driven by getting the app back in the iOS App Store. (I mean, hell, Tumblr doesn't need an app, and it's not like Apple blocks you from surfing to porn sites on Safari.)

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by msoucy » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 9:37 PM UTC

phreack wrote: post #72

Surprisingly, the thing I'd been using it most for, was that it's the only major social media website I know that still shows posts in chronological order.

It's gotten to the point where that's actually a selling point for networks such as Mastodon... which is silly, because it should be normal behavior.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by ryanmarsh » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 9:40 PM UTC

cm2012 wrote: post #252

noobermin wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people follow QAnon or 4chan nonsense? You're over weighting a sheer minority of people who probably have other issues in their lives as for why they chase down conspiracy rabbit holes.

QAnon stuff gets millions of shares on Facebook every week. It's nuts and not a tiny slice of people. Ballpark 20% of republican voters at the very least believe in this stuff.

At least 20%. I’m right wing. Lemme tell yah.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by bilbo0s » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 9:41 PM UTC

666lumberjack wrote: post #256

pvarangot wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The click through for non-porn ads besides porn is, in my experience, almost non-existant.

Wasn't there an experiment where a sandwich company bought ads next to videos on Pornhub to target hungry people who'd just gotten off and were hugely successful? Found it: https://blog.eat24.com/how-to-advertise-on-a-porn-website/

Well if you find a sandwich company, you should let them know.

But Mattel, Sony, GM, Apple, and American Airlines aren't signing up anytime soon. That's the problem for Tumblr.

I think this is just one of those instances in which a customer just starts costing you too much money. Will banning the low-rent crowd make a difference at this point? Who can say really. But keeping them pretty much ensures you will not get access to the deep pocketed advertisers.