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Re: Slow Software

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Post by RayDonnelly »

burntsushi wrote: post #259
RayDonnelly wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way is updating README.md difficult? Please have as much respect for contributors and potential contributors as you seem to have for maintainers. They're all people after all and their free time is equally important.

In theory , I agree. But again, speaking from personal experience as the maintainer of several somewhat popular projects, it is actually emotionally difficult to update the maintenance status. It appears trivial from the outside, and to some extent I agree with what you're saying about being respectful of others' time, but we should nevertheless do our best to be kind to others. Calling out a maintainer in an off top…

You are completely right. I apologize.

Re: Slow Software

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Post by dang »

RayDonnelly wrote: post #244

Can we talk about slow maintainers here instead? Can you explain why you never responded to https://github.com/ggreer/the_silver_searcher/pull/619 despite me asking you to several times over the course of many years?

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18508236.

You went beyond incivility and crossed into harassing another user in this thread. I won't ban you for it because I saw your apology below, but please don't do anything like this on HN again.

A single comment that was half as aggressive as your first one would already have been more than enough, even if it wasn't completely off topic.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Slow Software

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Post by Too »

pjmlp wrote: post #79
eikenberry wrote: post #60

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> I really just want to work somewhere without anti-virus. Not trying to be hostile.. but why aren't you? I've never worked anywhere that required anti-virus, so I know there are jobs out there that don't require it. In recent years I've gone so far as to take the stance that I won't use company computers at all, only my own, and I still haven't had any problems finding work. Unless you have strict restrictions on sw…

I worked in such companies, where you need to sign that you assume all legal consequences of a virus being introduced into the company network via your computer.

Such a question can only be countered one way: "if company installs anti virus, does head of IT assume all legal consequences of virus being introduced?".

Didn't think so

Re: Slow Software

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Post by Teckla »

dandare wrote: post #160

Input latency, I can understand. Web latency, at least you know what you are paying for (trackers, fonts, bloated stylesheets, MBs of JS libraries...). But core software latency, that is pure madness. Android share menu: what on earth takes 500ms-2000ms to display a menu?? Android scrolling: I could have a smoother scrolling if I rendered the view on a wall in Doom III. Why on earth is the scrolling process not prior…

Microsoft Outlook on Mac: it can teak easily 2000ms to close(!) a window, are you kidding me?

On my new 8th gen i7, restoring a Skype for Business window (from the task bar, so it's already running), I've measured at sometimes in excess of 10 seconds for it to restore. No other application I use exhibits such horrible performance.

I can see the typing latency in the latest version of Outlook, too, when composing an email. And don't even get me started on web-based Outlook, the performance is abysmal.

Not sure what's going on at Microsoft lately, but something very, very wrong has been happening for 3-4 years now.

Re: Slow Software

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Post by Zarel »

icebraining wrote: post #165
Zarel wrote: post #66

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In theory, AMP pages should all load instantly, and most news websites have AMP pages. A lot of HNers hate AMP for other reasons, though; I think mostly Google's insistence on using their CDN for it, and for whitelisting mostly their own scripts for use in AMP.

AMP loads "instantly" because Chrome preloads it, not because they're very fast. A simple page like [1] loads over a dozen JS files (including stuff like "amp-analytics"), which expand to over 1MB of code that has to be parsed. [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-44802666

Fair, but keep in mind that AMP loads scripts async, so the page is finished loading and usable well before stuff like amp-analytics is done being downloaded.

Re: Slow Software

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Post by nugator »

Bjartr wrote: post #215
nugator wrote: post #208

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Amen, the Android share menu. Seems like it tries to go through the entire history of my previous shares to see what is most popular, then asks every app that enables sharing to list their respective sharing targets. Some of these apps also checks which of its own sharing targets are most popular (like the sms app and Messenger). Finally it renders a long list that to me feels random each time and not always relevant…

I recently learned I could long press share targets and pin them. So the fine I actually use in the list of a couple dozen actually show up first now.

Great tip! Thanks!

Re: Slow Software

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Post by kthejoker2 »

nugator wrote: post #208
dandare wrote: post #160

Input latency, I can understand. Web latency, at least you know what you are paying for (trackers, fonts, bloated stylesheets, MBs of JS libraries...). But core software latency, that is pure madness. Android share menu: what on earth takes 500ms-2000ms to display a menu?? Android scrolling: I could have a smoother scrolling if I rendered the view on a wall in Doom III. Why on earth is the scrolling process not prior…

Amen, the Android share menu. Seems like it tries to go through the entire history of my previous shares to see what is most popular, then asks every app that enables sharing to list their respective sharing targets. Some of these apps also checks which of its own sharing targets are most popular (like the sms app and Messenger). Finally it renders a long list that to me feels random each time and not always relevant…

The canonical article

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/05/google-please-fix-a...

Re: Slow Software

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Post by bartread »

Teckla wrote: post #264
dandare wrote: post #160

Input latency, I can understand. Web latency, at least you know what you are paying for (trackers, fonts, bloated stylesheets, MBs of JS libraries...). But core software latency, that is pure madness. Android share menu: what on earth takes 500ms-2000ms to display a menu?? Android scrolling: I could have a smoother scrolling if I rendered the view on a wall in Doom III. Why on earth is the scrolling process not prior…

Microsoft Outlook on Mac: it can teak easily 2000ms to close(!) a window, are you kidding me? On my new 8th gen i7, restoring a Skype for Business window (from the task bar, so it's already running), I've measured at sometimes in excess of 10 seconds for it to restore. No other application I use exhibits such horrible performance. I can see the typing latency in the latest version of Outlook, too, when composing an e…

Microsoft Teams is similarly bad. Also, multiple seconds to switch views in app. I really, really hate it.

Re: Slow Software

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Post by winrid »

black-tea wrote: post #224
winrid wrote: post #93

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Why not compaign for the change to different AV software?

That kind of change would either never happen or take years to happen. I haven't got time for that.

Years? I guess we have worked at different types of companies.

Re: Slow Software

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Post by cco »

ploxiln wrote: post #190
cco wrote: post #77

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Are you on Jira Could? I've never seen a self hosted Jira instance that slow.

Yes, it's the Atlassian-hosted version. I have heard that they did a complete re-write for the on-premise version, but will probably never be able to replace the old codebase ...

Ah interesting, I think this is the disconnect I always have, I've never used their cloud based version.

This reinforces for me that JIRA should always be self hosted.

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